[governance] PINGO

Marie GEORGES marie.georges at noos.fr
Sun May 11 14:06:56 EDT 2014


Excellent...
Many thanks for those precisions
MG
Le 11 mai 2014 à 19:22, Jefsey a écrit :

> At 10:42 11/05/2014, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
>> here is my view how to deal with the section on Internet Principles of the NetMundial Sai Paulo Declaration. 
>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140510_pingo_net_mundial_adopts_principles_on_internet_governance/
> 
> Thank you for this document which is an excellent historical political (but not technical) summary. As a result, I am afraid there are in your text:
> * an explicit bug: in Towards a Soft Law Approach, point 2: "All parties support the historically grown architectural principles of an open Internet (e2e)"
> * an implicit bug: there is no mention of the ICANN/NETIA strategic BUG (wanting to be unilateral global).
> 
> The second one is a well known one. The fist one is less known as it is not necessarily technical: it is the confusion many make between the end, edge and fringe. What to you mean by e2e, most probably end to end and not edge to edge. While in reality if the internet service provision is end to end, it use is fringe to fringe, and its problems mostly come from the unballance in consideration brought to the edge providers.
> 
> Please note that if you consult the well documented wikipedia page on the End to End principle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_principle) you will seach "edge" and "fringe" in vain while RFC 1958 (Architectural Principles of the Internet) states that "The network's job is to transmit datagrams as efficiently and flexibly as possible. Everything else should be done at the fringes" and does not consider edges. 
> 
> IRT. edges, the best definition I found is CISCO's: "The Internet edge is the network infrastructure that provides connectivity to the Internet, and that acts as the gateway for the enterprise to the rest of the cyber space". http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/solutions/Enterprise/WAN_and_MAN/Internet_Edge/InterEdgeOver.html 
> 
> As long as politicians confuse end, edge, fringe, apps, and brains (where naming roots) we will not be able to work any consensually stable and acceptable solution. This is not because VGNs have not been identified/accepted so far as the main constituant type of the digital system that it is not it.
> 
> jfc
> 
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