<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Excellent...<div>Many thanks for those precisions</div><div>MG<br><div><div>Le 11 mai 2014 à 19:22, Jefsey a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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At 10:42 11/05/2014, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="x-msg://95/">here is my view how to deal with
the section on Internet Principles of the NetMundial Sai Paulo
Declaration. <br>
<a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140510_pingo_net_mundial_adopts_principles_on_internet_governance/" eudora="autourl">
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140510_pingo_net_mundial_adopts_principles_on_internet_governance/</a>
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Thank you for this document which is an excellent historical political
(but not technical) summary. As a result, I am afraid there are in your
text:<br>
* an explicit bug: in <b>Towards a Soft Law Approach</b>, point 2:
"All parties support the historically grown architectural principles
of an open Internet (e2e)"<br>
* an implicit bug: there is no mention of the ICANN/NETIA strategic BUG
(wanting to be unilateral global).<br><br>
The second one is a well known one. The fist one is less known as it is
not necessarily technical: it is the confusion many make between the end,
edge and fringe. What to you mean by e2e, most probably end to end and
not edge to edge. While in reality if the internet service provision is
end to end, it use is fringe to fringe, and its problems mostly come from
the unballance in consideration brought to the edge providers.<br><br>
Please note that if you consult the well documented wikipedia page on the
End to End principle
(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_principle" eudora="autourl">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_principle</a>) you will seach
"edge" and "fringe" in vain while RFC 1958
(Architectural Principles of the Internet) states that "The
network's job is to transmit datagrams as efficiently and flexibly as
possible. Everything else should be done at the fringes" and does
not consider edges. <br><br>
IRT. edges, the best definition I found is CISCO's: "The Internet
edge is the network infrastructure that provides connectivity to the
Internet, and that acts as the gateway for the enterprise to the rest of
the cyber space".
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/solutions/Enterprise/WAN_and_MAN/Internet_Edge/InterEdgeOver.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/solutions/Enterprise/WAN_and_MAN/Internet_Edge/InterEdgeOver.html</a>
<br><br>
As long as politicians confuse end, edge, fringe, apps, and brains (where
naming roots) we will not be able to work any consensually stable and
acceptable solution. This is not because VGNs have not been
identified/accepted so far as the main constituant type of the digital
system that it is not it.<br><br>
jfc<br><br>
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