[governance] Re: [discuss] U.S. to Give Up Oversight of Web Policymaking Body

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

If they didn't block saddams iq, the assads sy etc despite several other 
active trade bans and a full blown war, parminder should remain reasonably 
confident that this particular sky isn't going to fall on our collective heads.


On 15 March 2014 7:13:57 pm Ken Stubbs <kstubbs at afilias.info> wrote:

> Speaking personally here !
>
> Paraminder & others..
>
> I constantly see specific references to " being free from USG ties is being 
> free from application of US jurisdiction "
>
> What are you referring to here ? Certainly not contract jurisdiction. ICANN 
> has very significant numbers of
> contracts (i.e. registry, registrar etc)  .. all with US (i.e. California 
> domicile).  These contracts go on for years
> and jurisdiction cannot be changed without agreement of all the contracted 
> parties.
>
> So far I have seen very few specific examples of exactly what the impact of 
> the change would be .
> The only real impact I see would be the preclusion of the US blocking a 
> re-delegation of a CCTLD administration
> for some political motive, which by the way, to the best of my knowledge, 
> HAS NEVER HAPPENED
> in the 20 years I have been involved in this process.
>
> Is this where all the concerns lie ?
>
> Ken Stubbs
>
> On 3/15/2014 7:32 AM, parminder wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday 15 March 2014 04:38 PM, McTim wrote:
> >> For a very long time indeed, many have asked for the US to relinquish 
> their role.  Now they have signaled their willingness/readiness to do so.
> >>
> >>
> >> In practical terms, I see ICANN "floating free" from its USG ties.  That 
> is what i got out of the Press Conference last night anyway (although I 
> dialed in late) so may be mistaken.
> >
> > Yes, you are wrong, free from USG ties is being free from application of 
> US jurisdiction, which more significant part has not changed at all, unless 
> of course USG plans to give away that as well, which would be really really 
> appreciated... Any idea if that is planned?
> >
> > parminder
> >>
> >> rgds,
> >>
> >> McTim
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Pranesh Prakash <pranesh at cis-india.org 
> <mailto:pranesh at cis-india.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     McTim [2014-03-14 18:43]:
> >>
> >>         This is a very large step. am hoping all those who decry the
> >>         use of the
> >>         term "globalisation" of Internet Governance will rejoice in
> >>         its use here.
> >>
> >>
> >>     McTim, I'd be interested in knowing why exactly you see this as
> >>     being "a very large step".
> >>
> >>     In practical terms, what do you see as the significant and
> >>     important changes this will lead to?
> >>
> >>     -- Pranesh Prakash
> >>     Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society
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> >>     http://cis-india.org
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Cheers,
> >>
> >> McTim
> >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A 
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> >
>
>
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