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<p>If they didn't block saddams iq, the assads sy etc despite several other
active trade bans and a full blown war, parminder should remain reasonably
confident that this particular sky isn't going to fall on our collective
heads. </p>
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<p style="margin: 10pt 0; color: black;">On 15 March 2014 7:13:57 pm Ken
Stubbs <kstubbs@afilias.info> wrote:</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Speaking personally here !<br>
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Paraminder & others..<br>
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I constantly see specific references to " being free from USG ties
is being free from application of US jurisdiction "<br>
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What are you referring to here ? Certainly not contract
jurisdiction. ICANN has very significant numbers of<br>
contracts (i.e. registry, registrar etc) .. all with US (i.e.
California domicile). These contracts go on for years<br>
and jurisdiction cannot be changed without agreement of all the
contracted parties.<br>
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So far I have seen very few specific examples of exactly what the
impact of the change would be .<br>
The only real impact I see would be the preclusion of the US
blocking a re-delegation of a CCTLD administration<br>
for some political motive, which by the way, to the best of my
knowledge, HAS NEVER HAPPENED<br>
in the 20 years I have been involved in this process.<br>
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Is this where all the concerns lie ? <br>
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Ken Stubbs<br>
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On 3/15/2014 7:32 AM, parminder wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 15 March 2014 04:38 PM,
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<div dir="ltr">For a very long time indeed, many have asked for
the US to relinquish their role. Now they have signaled their
willingness/readiness to do so.
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<div>In practical terms, I see ICANN "floating free" from its
USG ties. That is what i got out of the Press Conference
last night anyway (although I dialed in late) so may be
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Yes, you are wrong, free from USG ties is being free from
application of US jurisdiction, which more significant part has
not changed at all, unless of course USG plans to give away that
as well, which would be really really appreciated... Any idea if
that is planned? <br>
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parminder <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM,
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This is a very large step. am hoping all those who
decry the use of the<br>
term "globalisation" of Internet Governance will
rejoice in its use here.<br>
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McTim, I'd be interested in knowing why exactly you see
this as being "a very large step".<br>
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In practical terms, what do you see as the significant and
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Cheers,<br>
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McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it
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