[governance] Inquiry for a new vision into the future of IGC

Fri Jun 27 04:55:32 EDT 2014

Hello,

To go in the direction of JFC and situate myself in the logic of his
argument, would it not be desirable to structure the IGC by geographic
area: IGC europe, africa IGC, IGC Asia, Australia IGC, IGC Latin
America ... ..

The problems and realities are not the same but constituting
geographical areas, members of the IGC will idenfy the challenges,
needs and find the EXPRESSED approaches solution at the global IGC.

This implies that the IGC should build partnerships with the various
institutions in national, sub regional, regional and international
levels.

This approach opens a close opportunites to concrete projects with
local partners all by creating a systemic dynamics at sub-regional and
regional levels. This, in my humble opinion, can give an existential
justification of the overall IGC which thus becomes an effective
partner of the IGF and other government institutions and international
organizations.

Baudouin

2014-06-26 20:40 UTC+02:00, JFC Morfin <jefsey at jefsey.com>:
> Dear Mawaki,
>
> let assume the WSIS achitectonic model (gov, private, international,
> civil) is right. A serious MSism needs to proceed by
> layers/planes/topics : politics, economy, technology, research, law,
> culture, etc. For each of these layer/plane/topic each MS group need
> to bring a balancing contribution that will contribute with its
> particular abilities, interests, working results, dynamism, ideas,
> innovation.
>
>  From what we observe Govs are influenced by the USG, private sector
> by ICC, international by UN, i.e. three diversified
> layers/plans/topics leadership/facilitating dynamisms. Civil Society,
> for various good and bad reasons (including lack of money, lack of
> self-understanding of the differences between government of people,
> sales to markets, NGO crowds, and global complex multitude) has done
> quite nothing except focusing on human rights, mostly only talking about
> them.
>
> As a result every human knows now how to be influenced by machines,
> be commanded by govs, buy as a consumer, and wait for foreign help.
> We have all forget that we are those who build the world, help each
> others, are the govs and make the industry work. We forgot to
> contribute only complaining.
>
>
> How to correct this?
>
> My understanding is that the WSIS model has three global and
> specialized classes (govs, business and NGOs) and one local and
> general one (Civil Society). We are at different granularity level.
> To obtain global peace Govs want to coordinate, business to compete,
> NGOs to help: we want to live in a resulting local peace we are to
> organize and consolidate in our own framework.
>
> If the others cannot network that peace, or need help, we have to
> weave it at our own level: we the people.
>
> This is why I think the solution is to come back to the network
> fundamentals (it being ARPANET, Tymnet,  Internet, UN, I*Core, etc.)
> : the networking we use must fit the networking we are given. Govs,
> business, International organizations try to build a top down
> solution: the nework of networks. We need to use our networks in it.
> This makes a simple model: the networks of the network of networks.
>
> This has a simple name which is called coalitions, alliances,
> peoples, nations, communities, collectivities, families, frienship,
> projects, persons, closed-user-groups, class/groups, etc. etc. in
> states, people and machines relations. In internet wording these are
> "entangled VGNs" (virtual global networks, or "open closed gardens").
> They are the way we chose to stabilize our individual or  grouped
> optimization of our digitalities networking.
>
> You can call them the way you want if you are not pleased with the
> term. The important thing for each of us is the way we can build,
> govern and protect them..
>
>  From my personal experience, we are right now
> - staturated at the states global VGN planes (US, CN, possibly Europe,
> etc.),
> - we are fed-up by the private global systems (edge providers,
> technology communities)
> - and uncertain about the states and private national VGNs
> (e-government, national franchising, e-commerce).
>
> Also, we are not ready at individual planes (still a lot of Libre
> solutions integration needed to ballance and interface with
> institutional and commercial propositions).
>
>
> The engaged necessary wining path
>
> As a conquence, I think and try to experiment what is possible to do
> at the intermediate level of quarters, villages, valleys, etc. Where
> people share many different economic, political, cultural,
> family,etc. interests. This is why I am more interested in the
> "intelligent village on the information highways by everyone for
> everyone", because as Gene Gaines puts it: "we are the internet". In
> that context, the local VGN (virtual glocal network) become real
> stakeholders with the same power as the US VGN, with their own
> HomeRoot, SuperIANA, Happy-IPs. Not yet fully organized, tested, etc.
> But we have a few months before they try to flood the planet with
> their NTIACANN Love Story. In every plan preparation, a contingency
> plan is necessary. It is mine, and I suggest that the more we are the
> best it will be.
>
> Sorry if my project is in French. But links are also in English. I
> would like to fill  this page:
> http://sv2b.net/index.php/Liste_d%27initiatives_comparables_dans_le_monde
> with links to local significative people's projects.
>
> The conceptual modem is simple:
>
> - a local physical meshed network offering fast and symetric
> connections (M&M model: masters with masters),
> - with SDN (software designed networking) connected through OPES
> (open pluggable edge services),
> - with a LISP IPv4 gateway relating with
>    --- other similar plateforms
>    --- or edge providers selected through the local/personal DNS
> through different technology network systems.
>    --- or regular current internet (default).
>
> Forget about ICANN, RIRs, IETF:
> - they only are interested in low grade (current non neutral QoS),
> - while our VGN layer (actually the missing OSI presentation layer
> six) can support
>    ---  local/global traffic optimization,
>    --- including CCN (content centered networking)
>    --- and active content intelligrams (intelligence)
>
> This is not big conceptual deal, except that we have to coordinate a
> myriad of solutions, make them compatible, etc. hence to be present
> as MS "inter-users" (i.e. talking together and not only having
> network access) in the normative assemblies. Standards are the way we
> are governed. Time has come for norms to be part of political parties
> projects. What is to be our society: power, money, machine, people centered
> ?
>
> If we are not member of the resulting MS debate and running
> code/leaving mode experimentation, never mind, the result will be the
> same (digital world equilibrium) after some more delays and clashes.
> Scientifically this is named "self-ordering criticality". "SOC" is
> the way the world works. Criticalities can be benign when people are
> smart, they can be wars when they are not.
>
> jfc
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> At 14:01 26/06/2014, Mawaki Chango wrote:
>>Dear Members,
>>
>>This is an informal inquiry I would like to launch to hear from IGC
>>members or list subscribers and collect your ideas about where we
>>should go from here, as the Internet Governance Caucus.
>>
>>Particularly, please share your thoughts as to whether, in this
>>context of IG or Information Society more broadly, civil society
>>needs an analogue to what ICC BASIS
>>(<http://www.iccwbo.org/advocacy-codes-and-rules/basis/>http://www.iccwbo.org/advocacy-codes-and-rules/basis/)
>>
>>is doing for business, and if so, what this would need to be like.
>>
>>Thanks for your cooperation.
>>
>>Mawaki
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