CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process

[Peter H. Hellmonds]

It may be useful to refer to some of the definitions proposed by ISO, the International Standards Organization, such as this one:

2.27
stakeholder
any individual, group or organization that can affect, be affected by, or perceive themselves to be affected by a decision or activity
[SOURCE: ISO Guide 73:2009, 3.2.1.1, modified — The NOTE has been deleted.]

This particular guide is quoted in:
ISO/IEC TR 38502:2014(en)
Information technology — Governance of IT 


On 31 Jul 2014, at 18:20, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:

Fair enough

--srs (iPad)

> On 31-Jul-2014, at 21:31, williams.deirdre at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I agree with you. But it is frequently perceived as being money or property of some kind, and it would be good to avoid confusion as much as possible. 
> Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:19:34 
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org<governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; michael gurstein<gurstein at gmail.com>
> Cc: McTim<dogwallah at gmail.com>; Deirdre Williams<williams.deirdre at gmail.com>; Mawaki Chango<kichango at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process
> 
> Tangible, concrete investment can mean just active involvement in a process, and contribution of personal expertise, time and effort to it.
> 
> --srs (iPad)
> 
>> On 31-Jul-2014, at 21:04, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm... do cats announce their intentions to pigeons?
>> 
>> M
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of McTim
>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:22 AM
>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Deirdre Williams
>> Cc: Mawaki Chango
>> Subject: Re: CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>>> I would propose that a great part of the difficulty of definition is 
>>> caused by the word "stakeholder", because a stakeholder is seen as 
>>> being one with a tangible, concrete investment in a process.
>> 
>> I don't think that is the case at all.  I've never seen or heard anyone in IG make that kind of statement.
>> 
>> 
>> rgds,
>> 
>> McTim
>> 
>> 
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