CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process

[Mawaki Chango]

Correction:

 ...qualifying the need for distinction between stakeholder groups *[erase
--> which are regularly raised] when faced with nominating
representatives/delegates as a flaw (...) and then *faulting the
Geneva-WSIS type of MSism for it...


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > McTim,
>> >
>> > You keep making this point that all the woes of MSism come from, and
>> only
>> > from, the ITU/WSIS breed.
>>
>> I've never made that point.  I HAVE however consistently pointed out
>> that what goes on in Geneva is "meta-IG" and that BUTOC (Bottom Up,
>> Transparent, Open, Consensus-based) processes are far superior to
>> those where governments have a greater role than anyone else.
>>
>
> Well, I feel pretty sure having read you more than once qualifying the
> need for distinction between stakeholder groups which are regularly raised
> when faced with nominating representatives/delegates as a flaw (eg, CS vs.
> business reps or CS vs. Technical community reps), and then faulting it
> onto the Geneva-WSIS type of MSism... like they created it. This is quite a
> different problem from the question of governments having greater role.
>
> But if you think that is a misreading from my part, then I hope this would
> also mean that you're hereby recognizing that the difficulties coming with
> grouping and labeling stakeholders --which inevitably requires
> distinguishing between them-- do not particularly originate from the
> Geneva-WSIS type of MSism.
>
> Thank you for the links to useful resources.
> Best,
>
> Mawaki
>
>
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