CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process

[Mawaki Chango]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > McTim,
> >
> > You keep making this point that all the woes of MSism come from, and only
> > from, the ITU/WSIS breed.
>
> I've never made that point.  I HAVE however consistently pointed out
> that what goes on in Geneva is "meta-IG" and that BUTOC (Bottom Up,
> Transparent, Open, Consensus-based) processes are far superior to
> those where governments have a greater role than anyone else.
>

Well, I feel pretty sure having read you more than once qualifying the need
for distinction between stakeholder groups which are regularly raised when
faced with nominating representatives/delegates as a flaw (eg, CS vs.
business reps or CS vs. Technical community reps), and then faulting it
onto the Geneva-WSIS type of MSism... like they created it. This is quite a
different problem from the question of governments having greater role.

But if you think that is a misreading from my part, then I hope this would
also mean that you're hereby recognizing that the difficulties coming with
grouping and labeling stakeholders --which inevitably requires
distinguishing between them-- do not particularly originate from the
Geneva-WSIS type of MSism.

Thank you for the links to useful resources.
Best,

Mawaki
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