CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process
Ian Peter
ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Wed Jul 30 01:33:26 EDT 2014
A couple of things we might want to argue for as basic principles occur to me as I read these issues.
1. Nothing in multistakeholder governance overrides the sovereignty of nation states when it comes to purely national issues (we may as well agree to something like that, because nation states will insist on it anyway and we will get a lot more common sense if we include a reference to”purely national issues”.
2. In matters where pecuniary interests or individual national sovereignty interests are involved, it is important in the multistakeholder model for affected parties to both declare these interests and to agree not to block what would otherwise be a global consensus on policy to deal with such issues.
Just a couple of thoughts – others may have better wording, but it would be good to embed a few such principles in a path forward. Without the second one, for example, multistakeholderism is a farce.
Ian Peter
From: Ian Peter
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:46 AM
To: Nnenna Nwakanma ; Governance
Subject: Re: CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process
Thanks Nnenna. So if we start to compile a list of issues related to multistakeholderism, these would include
1. roles and responsibilities, including the meaning and application of equal footing
2. jurisdictional issues
3. applicability to final decision responsibility in various areas
4. consensus and the ability of any one one stakeholder or stakeholder group to block progress based on self-interest
(these are all interrelated)
I don’t know if everyone here is used to dealing with issues lists. To me an issues list (based on practice in project management) is a list of areas where we have no immediate solution, and where we need further discussion and clarification. Some carry very high risk, some are minor. I would classify all of the above issues as being a high risk in multistakeholder practice.
Ian
From: Nnenna Nwakanma
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:29 AM
To: Governance
Subject: Re: CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process
Many thanks, Ian.
There was also:
Points to be further discussed beyond NETmundial:
Several contributions to NETmundial identified the following non-exhaustive list of points that need better understanding and further discussion in appropriate fora:
Different roles and responsibilities of stakeholders in Internet governance,
including the meaning and application of equal footing.
Jurisdiction issues and how they relate to Internet governance.
Benchmarking systems and related indicators regarding the application of
Internet governance principles.
Net neutrality.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
Here’s what was agreed to at Netmundial. I personally have no problem with any of this, does anyone?
What I think we need to add to this comes from the discussion Parminder started, in response to Avri’s posting, as regards limits to multistakeholder application to final decision making in some instances. But if we are all happy with what is below, we have a very good start. We could then look at the areas where we see limits to applicability and the need for further clarification.
Ian Peter
FROM NETMUNDIAL
INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROCESS PRINCIPLES
Multistakeholder: Internet governance should be built on democratic,
multistakeholder processes, ensuring the meaningful and accountable
participation of all stakeholders, including governments, the private sector,
civil society, the technical community, the academic community and users.
The respective roles and responsibilities of stakeholders should be
interpreted in a flexible manner with reference to the issue under discussion.
Open, participative, consensus driven governance: The development of
international Internet-related public policies and Internet governance
arrangements should enable the full and balanced participation of all
stakeholders from around the globe, and made by consensus, to the extent
possible.
Transparent: Decisions made must be easy to understand, processes must
be clearly documented and follow agreed procedures, and procedures must
be developed and agreed upon through multistakeholder processes.
Accountable: Mechanisms for independent checks and balances as well as
for review and redress should exist. Governments have primary, legal and
political accountability for the protection of human rights
Inclusive and equitable: Internet governance institutions and processes
should be inclusive and open to all interested stakeholders. Processes,
including decision making, should be bottom-up, enabling the full involvement
of all stakeholders, in a way that does not disadvantage any category of
stakeholder.
Distributed: Internet Governance should be carried out through a distributed,
decentralized and multistakeholder ecosystem.
Collaborative: Internet governance should be based on and encourage
collaborative and cooperative approaches that reflect the inputs and interests
of stakeholders.
Enabling meaningful participation: Anyone affected by an Internet
governance process should be able to participate in that process. Particularly,
Internet governance institutions and processes should support capacity
building for newcomers, especially stakeholders from developing countries
and underrepresented groups.
From: Deirdre Williams
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:36 AM
To: Internet Governance ; Mawaki Chango
Subject: Re: CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process
I have a suggestion which I hope won't be considered too flippant. There's a game, at least in English, for whiling away long car journeys, in which the participants take turns to suggest adjectives, in alphabetical order, for "the parson's cat".
Our "parson's cat" is "multistakeholderism"
My turn first - I suggest that an attribute of multistakeholderism is "inclusive", that we share a common understanding that multistakeholderism is (or should be) a way towards more inclusive participation in the IG debate and decision making.
Next person - either suggest another attribute that you think we perceive in common, or take what I proposed and qualify it as you think necessary - "but ....", or both.
This way we can build up a list of attributes in common while at the same time being made aware of the reservations and exceptions that people may have.
Could that work?
Deirdre
On 29 July 2014 11:05, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
I personally endorsed the use of that phrase earlier on the basis, and only on the basis, that this is work in progress, that we are right in this thread and in a couple of others related seeking to hammer out a common understanding. So I have been listening and hope I am being listened to as well. There will be a point where we might reach and declare some common understanding or we will have to acknowledge our failure to reach such outcome.
Are we there yet?
Mawaki
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
Is there really a common understanding of multistakeholderism? I don't
think so, and I would further suggest that it will be a good starting
point to acknowledge that currently there are several different
understandings of multistakeholderism, and to therefore start listening
to each other with a goal of learning how others may understand
“multistakeholderism” differently.
Greetings,
Norbert
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:31:29 -0400
Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for common understanding.
> Deirdre
>
>
> On 29 July 2014 10:16, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am ok with "common understanding" (putting the emphasis in my last
> > sentence below on the term "understand" rather than on
> > "definition'.) Note: at times some may also refer to it as working
> > definition, whatever designation people are comfortable with works
> > fine for me, but I like the modest and cooperative tone in "common
> > understanding".
> >
> > Mawaki
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Nnenna Nwakanma
> > <nnenna75 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Should we seek "a common understanding" instead of "definition"?
> >>
> >> Just asking
> >>
> >> N
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Mawaki Chango
> >> <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva <
> >>> Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ian, probably multistakeholder is not defined yet because it is
> >>>> composed of two words multiple-stakeholders. And stakeholder too
> >>>> is composed of two words stake-holder. Technically then,
> >>>> Multistakeholder is composed of three words
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> It's a totally different question as to whether
> >>> "mutistakeholderism" needs to be defined despite being made up of
> >>> parts that are familiar. And I think all definition questions
> >>> boil down to people struggling to understand precisely what
> >>> "mutistakeholderism" is or should be.
> >>>
> >>> Mawaki
> >>>
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