[NCUC-DISCUSS] [bestbits] Re: [governance] list of important questions to be delivered to LOC before 27th meeting

Mon Jan 27 11:46:44 EST 2014

Thank you, Chantal. These are interesting figures: 35% of all IGF
participants in 2014 came from Africa, the Asia-Pacific and Africa (though
those from AP made up the large majority), while an additional 29% came
from the host country. In addition, 46% of all participants represented
civil society.

It may well still be that civil society from developing countries is
under-represented in that 46% (the figures in this graphs don't give
further insight into this). I'm also very conscious of the fact that it is
less likely that CS participants from developing countries are able to
repeat their participation year on year. Both of these are obviously issues
that need to be addressed.

But even then, these figures made me wonder whether our biggest problem
perhaps is that we are not able to use our presence to make our myriad
voices effectively heard, rather than a lack of presence as such. With such
a large participation of CS people, surely it should be possible for us to
have to have greater influence on processes than we currently do, and to
have more of the diverse CS voices more loudly heard?

And if so, perhaps this should be at the fore of our minds as we prepare
for the Brazil meeting, whether or not participation in the event will be
decided along quotas. Representation is obviously important, but so is
organisation.

Best,
Anja

On 27 January 2014 16:01, chlebrum . <chlebrum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anja,
>
> You can have some stats about Bali 2013 IGF here:
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2013-bali/attendance-statistics
> and the attendees list:
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2013-bali/participants-list
> Note that all registrants are not necessarily come to the meeting, but it
> gives idea for countries/continents attendees, but it changes every year
> depending on the chosen place for this meeting.
>
> Chantal
>
>
> 2014/1/27 Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in>:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> On the numbers issue, what I have found intriguing is that there is a
>> felt need to actually put cut-off points for number of participants for
>> each stakeholder group in place, while 1500 is actually slightly more than
>> the number of people who usually attend an IGF (without any cut offs being
>> put into place)?
>>
>> Is this in an attempt to crack up government participation? (And perhaps
>> Adam or someone else in the know can remind us of how big a percentage of
>> IGF participants comes from governments - I tried to find that info on the
>> IGF website but didn't manage to locate it)
>>
>> Before agreeing to any quotas, I think it would be good to have a bit
>> more of a sense of the rationale.
>>
>> Thanks and good luck with the meeting, Marilia and Adam!
>>
>> Anja
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 January 2014 00:39, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please read "Transmitted on behalf of 1net steering"
>>> On 26 Jan 2014 16:08, "Joana Varon" <joana at varonferraz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very good point,  Nnenna.
>>>>
>>>> Dear all, for the record, in the sense of using all the paths we have,
>>>> Adiel has just transmitted to the co-chairs of the EMC, Demi and Raul, the
>>>> sets of questions we have compiled. So Marilia and Adam can have more
>>>> support to push them as urgent matters as well.
>>>>
>>>> For the very tricky ones, I would suggest to bring a set of options to
>>>> consult with the stakeholders.
>>>>
>>>> All the best and I wish you both, Adam and Marilia, a very inspired
>>>> meeting
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Joana
>>>> On 26 Jan 2014 14:24, "Nnenna Nwakanma" <nnenna75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will tend to lean on a committee using an agreed set of criteria,
>>>>> one being contribution during the prep process.
>>>>> However, there is one thing that needs to be checked
>>>>> ** the size of government delegations***
>>>>>
>>>>> How many people can be in an official delegation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Over the years, the IGF has been encouraging governments to add CS
>>>>> folks to their delegations, and not  many countries have been doing that.
>>>>> So the question here will be : "What will be the maximum size of an
>>>>> official delegation?"
>>>>>
>>>>> N
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Marilia Maciel <
>>>>> mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for that Norbert. And if anyone feels that there were older
>>>>>> threads in our lists that were important to this present discussion, please
>>>>>> link them here, or resend them. I am trying to map, but any help would be
>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Marília
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Next step would be the question of selection. So far I have
>>>>>>> informally
>>>>>>> > tried to reach out to people and ask opinions. What I have
>>>>>>> collected
>>>>>>> > so far comes down to three options. But there may be more, so
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> > propose new ideas or comment on the ones below:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > - Bottom up self-selection process. Pro: more legitimacy. Con: some
>>>>>>> > fear the burden would be too heavy for a nom-com.
>>>>>>> > - First come first served. People who register would be accepted
>>>>>>> > until the number of participants is reached. Pro: easier to handle.
>>>>>>> > Con: some fear it could create distortions and lack of balance
>>>>>>> > - Selection by a committee (not clear by which one), based on
>>>>>>> > previously agreed criteria such as: balance between developind and
>>>>>>> > developed regions, presenting contributions to the public
>>>>>>> > consultation as pre-condition for on site participation, have
>>>>>>> > attended at least 3 IGFs, etc. Pro: Middle-terms solution if
>>>>>>> criteria
>>>>>>> > is agreed beforehand. Con: Not mentioned.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Please, let me know if you have feelings or preferences about the
>>>>>>> > above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> APC has proposed that the selection of participants should be on the
>>>>>>> basis of contributing substantively during the preparatory process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I support that proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Marília Maciel*
>>>>>> Pesquisadora Gestora
>>>>>> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Researcher and Coordinator
>>>>>> Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
>>>>>> http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DiploFoundation associate
>>>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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