<div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you, Chantal. These are interesting figures: 35% of all IGF participants in 2014 came from Africa, the Asia-Pacific and Africa (though those from AP made up the large majority), while an additional 29% came from the host country. In addition, 46% of all participants represented civil society.<br>
<br>It may well still be that civil society from developing countries is under-represented in that 46% (the figures in this graphs don't give further insight into this). I'm also very conscious of the fact that it is less likely that CS participants from developing countries are able to repeat their participation year on year. Both of these are obviously issues that need to be addressed. <br>
<br>But even then, these figures made me wonder whether our biggest problem perhaps is that we are not able to use our presence to make our myriad voices effectively heard, rather than a lack of presence as such. With such a large participation of CS people, surely it should be possible for us to have to have greater influence on processes than we currently do, and to have more of the diverse CS voices more loudly heard? <br>
<br>And if so, perhaps this should be at the fore of our minds as we prepare for the Brazil meeting, whether or not participation in the event will be decided along quotas. Representation is obviously important, but so is organisation. <br>
<br></div>Best,<br>Anja<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 January 2014 16:01, chlebrum . <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chlebrum@gmail.com" target="_blank">chlebrum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Anja,</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">You can have some stats about Bali 2013 IGF here:</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2013-bali/attendance-statistics" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2013-bali/attendance-statistics</a></font><br></div><div>
<font face="verdana, sans-serif">and the attendees list:</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2013-bali/participants-list" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2013-bali/participants-list</a><br>
</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Note that all registrants are not necessarily come to the meeting, but it gives idea for countries/continents attendees</font><font face="verdana, sans-serif">, but it changes every year depending on the chosen place for this meeting.</font><br>
</div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Chantal</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2014/1/27 Anja Kovacs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in" target="_blank">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear all,<br><br></div>On the numbers issue, what I have found intriguing is that there is a felt need to actually put cut-off points for number of participants for each stakeholder group in place, while 1500 is actually slightly more than the number of people who usually attend an IGF (without any cut offs being put into place)?<br>
<br></div>Is this in an attempt to crack up government participation? (And perhaps Adam or someone else in the know can remind us of how big a percentage of IGF participants comes from governments - I tried to find that info on the IGF website but didn't manage to locate it)<br>
<br></div>Before agreeing to any quotas, I think it would be good to have a bit more of a sense of the rationale. <br><br>Thanks and good luck with the meeting, Marilia and Adam!<br><br>Anja<br><div><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 January 2014 00:39, Joana Varon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Please read "Transmitted on behalf of 1net steering"</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 Jan 2014 16:08, "Joana Varon" <<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Very good point, Nnenna. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Dear all, for the record, in the sense of using all the paths we have, Adiel has just transmitted to the co-chairs of the EMC, Demi and Raul, the sets of questions we have compiled. So Marilia and Adam can have more support to push them as urgent matters as well.</p>
<p dir="ltr">For the very tricky ones, I would suggest to bring a set of options to consult with the stakeholders.</p>
<p dir="ltr">All the best and I wish you both, Adam and Marilia, a very inspired meeting</p>
<p dir="ltr">Best</p>
<p dir="ltr">Joana</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 Jan 2014 14:24, "Nnenna Nwakanma" <<a href="mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com" target="_blank">nnenna75@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I will tend to lean on a committee using an agreed set of criteria, one being contribution during the prep process.<br></div>However, there is one thing that needs to be checked <br></div>** the size of government delegations***<br>
<br></div><div>How many people can be in an official delegation?<br><br></div><div>Over the years, the IGF has been encouraging governments to add CS folks to their delegations, and not many countries have been doing that. So the question here will be : "What will be the maximum size of an official delegation?"<br>
<br></div><div>N<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for that Norbert. And if anyone feels that there were older threads in our lists that were important to this present discussion, please link them here, or resend them. I am trying to map, but any help would be useful.<div>
Best </div><div>Marília<br><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Next step would be the question of selection. So far I have informally<br>
> tried to reach out to people and ask opinions. What I have collected<br>
> so far comes down to three options. But there may be more, so please<br>
> propose new ideas or comment on the ones below:<br>
><br>
> - Bottom up self-selection process. Pro: more legitimacy. Con: some<br>
> fear the burden would be too heavy for a nom-com.<br>
> - First come first served. People who register would be accepted<br>
> until the number of participants is reached. Pro: easier to handle.<br>
> Con: some fear it could create distortions and lack of balance<br>
> - Selection by a committee (not clear by which one), based on<br>
> previously agreed criteria such as: balance between developind and<br>
> developed regions, presenting contributions to the public<br>
> consultation as pre-condition for on site participation, have<br>
> attended at least 3 IGFs, etc. Pro: Middle-terms solution if criteria<br>
> is agreed beforehand. Con: Not mentioned.<br>
><br>
> Please, let me know if you have feelings or preferences about the<br>
> above.<br>
<br>
</div>APC has proposed that the selection of participants should be on the<br>
basis of contributing substantively during the preparatory process.<br>
<br>
I support that proposal.<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
Norbert<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><b>Marília Maciel</b></div><div><font color="#444444">Pesquisadora Gestora</font></div><div><font color="#444444">Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - </font><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)">FGV Direito Rio</span></div>
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