[governance] FW: Data stored overseas should be accessible to US government, judge rules — RT USA

[parminder]

On Friday 01 August 2014 08:14 PM, Peter H. Hellmonds wrote:
> No, not a nail in cloud services per se, but just another narrow-sighted decision that will hurt US-based business interests and by extension US public policy interests. It will be just another sign for European companies that they cannot entrust their corporate data to cloud services of companies that are US-based or otherwise subject to US jurisdiction.

By the very same logic, what about entrusting Internet's DNS root to US 
jurisdiction? Isnt there is a similar problem/ issue with that. I ask 
because it is the IANA discussion which is the current IG context, and 
is something people can really do something about. If we really think 
and speak thus, we should out our political actions where our mouth is.

Friends, please let not be mislead by the nicely orchestrated IANA 
transition game.  Internet's root cannot stay under US jurisdiction. 
Especially with hundreds of new gltd coming up, this is just leaving a 
can of worms unattended. And we as actors who are present when IANA 
transition is taking place, apparently with the consent of the global 
community, will be political responsible as the worms begin to crawl out 
and pose innumerable social and political problems...

We must make a stand for incorporation of ICANN under international law 
and thereby be given host country immunities for it. This is the single 
biggest IANA issue, not all those diversionary technical and 
implementation issues that are continually offered as the real IANA 
issue - which I consider as deliberately misleading.

parminder




> I'm pretty sure you don't need RT (Russia Today) for that insight as I'm sure the Wall Street Journal and Forbes will already be blowing in the same horn, just as US businesses are. The big winners will be companies that are in "secure" locations, such as Switzerland, and which have little to no connections and business interests in the US. I read recently that one such Swiss cloud service has seen its business double after the Snowden revelations.
>
> Btw, there are open source cloud servers available that you can install in a self-hosted environment, either at home or at your favorite non-US ISP Webspace, depending on your bandwidth and security/privacy needs. ;-)
>
> On 01 Aug 2014, at 16:16, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://rt.com/usa/177104-microsoft-preska-ireland-server/
>
> Another nail in the coffin for "the cloud" and more...?
>
> M
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>      governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> To be removed from the list, visit:
>      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
>
> For all other list information and functions, see:
>      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
>      http://www.igcaucus.org/
>
> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
>


-------------- next part --------------
____________________________________________________________
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
     governance at lists.igcaucus.org
To be removed from the list, visit:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing

For all other list information and functions, see:
     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/

Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t