[governance] DMP} Statement on Process and Objectives for the Global Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance
Deirdre Williams
williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Sat Nov 30 08:28:33 EST 2013
Some concepts are too complex to force them into a single word.
Deirdre
On 30 November 2013 09:14, Bertrand de La Chapelle
<bdelachapelle at gmail.com>wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Finding an appropriate term is something that is an ongoing difficulty for
> the reasons detailed in this thread. And the ICANN community, staff and
> board are regularly struggling with this. The current consultations for the
> Strategic Plan illustrate it.
>
> In this context, Milton rightly highlights the ambiguity when discussing
> "ICANN's internationalization". There are different complementary
> dimensions behind this word, and it is important to distinguish them. I see
> at least the following three aspects:
>
> 1. *The Organization's physical presence and outreach*: this includes
> the current opening of hubs in Singapore and Istanbul, the creation of
> additional engagement offices, the role of the "regional" VPs, the
> development of multilingualism, etc... Generally speaking this is about
> ICANN moving closer to the people it serves, rather than having one core
> site of operations and asking people to just come to its meetings. In a
> nutshell, this is about ICANN thinking internationally.
> 2. *The incorporation of the organization in one particular country *(US
> in the State of California) and submission to one national legal regime vs
> exploring possible alternatives, such as: specific immunities, another
> country with specific regime for international non-profit organizations
> (cf. the report mentioned by Nick), or a more international status (INGO as
> Michael suggested) ... As mentioned by Karl, there are difficult legal and
> practical questions and this is why this has not necessarily moved much
> until now. Furthermore, ICANN had many other fish to fry in the last years,
> including improving its own operational capacity and the management of the
> new gTLD program. ICANN is performing a global public interest function, is
> therefore a global organization in that regard, even if the current
> international system does not easily (if at all) allow to create global
> structures that are not intergovernmental.
> 3. Last but not least, the term "ICANN's internationalization" also
> includes, as Milton noted, the question of *the role of the US
> administration in the IANA process*. This itself actually covers two
> dimensions: the fact that the IANA contract giving ICANN the responsibility
> for the clerical verification of the requests for changes in the root zone
> file is still issued by the US government AND the specific role of the US
> NTIA in the final transmission of the change to Verisign. This is now less
> a taboo for discussion since the Montevideo Declaration, which is good, and
> I am deeply convinced there are ways to address this issue in a fact-based
> and constructive manner. That being said, the important part is more about
> the internationalization of NTIA's role in the IANA workflow than the
> internationalization of ICANN itself. And the solution for that - even if
> we use the term "internationalization" - is not a sort of Digital Security
> Council. Innovation is needed here if we collectively want to move to a
> system that guarantees for ALL actors the integrity of the root zone file,
> ensuring that no one, voluntarily or involuntarily, can tamper with the
> root.
>
> Maybe different words could be used for these different dimensions.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Bests
>
> Bertrand
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>
>> I like these distinctions and I think they are valid. However all three
>> definitions overlook one of the most important aspects of the globalization
>> or transnationalization of ICANN: the removal of the source of authority
>> from a single national government and the linkage of its authority over the
>> DNS root zone file to a global polity.
>>
>>
>>
>> --MM
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal [mailto:
>> jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net]
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 29, 2013 3:52 PM
>> *To:* Norbert Bollow; Milton L Mueller
>> *Cc:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [governance] DMP} Statement on Process and Objectives for
>> the Global Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Norbert, Dear Milton,
>>
>>
>>
>> If I may contribute, with a somehow different and unusual perspective,
>> and in my humble Global Governance observer capacity, for the pleasure of
>> the reflection:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Internationalization*: one wants to have a larger international basis:
>> more offices, more representatives, more of a network of local branches
>> that, being put together, creates an international network. Still each
>> element is mostly comparable to the starting point in terms of culture,
>> thinking... Clones spread around the world? 'One for all' kind of
>> uniformity. *Meaning many little ICANNs all around. *
>>
>>
>>
>> *Globalization*: this could happen without a network of offices around
>> the world. You can observe a very globalized entity containing so many
>> different elements, co-exisiting, still assembling one strong outlet with a
>> governance of its own, but embracing 'solutions' that could fit more than
>> one single corporation, institution, nation. One voice, many voices... in a
>> single global body. So one ICANN speaking from one point to the many in a
>> global manner of thinking.
>>
>> *Meaning one ICANN with a big global mind.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Transnationalization*: this tends to establish a community of people
>> based in various locations, trying to forget about their local identity,
>> interest or belonging, with the objective to address a more common,
>> regional, transnational, trans-sectorial issue. A way to achieve an
>> understanding of global magnitude.
>>
>> *Meaning one ICANN talking to other minds.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - The first option has a few advantages. You keep a greater control over
>> the network, and at the end of the day, you can pretend to be a global
>> minded outlet. Good communication value.
>>
>> - The second option is probably the most difficult to achieve, specially
>> if you are not starting from a fully independent culture. Very challenging
>> when one starts from a private or national basis.
>>
>> - The third option might be a good compromise, if each one puts trust in
>> the other minds ('nods'?). But maybe a more sustainable approach, and
>> ultimately, one that could deliver a true global minded system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously, very much to be criticized, but at least worth trying to
>> explore. And quiet appropriate with the current state of the IG debate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Semantic has a lasting effect over the narrative and the ultimate
>> objective. A little bit like 'multistakeholder' which has emerged from the
>> corporate jargon (to soften counter forces or opponents, executives would
>> convene 'stakeholders' to the table for consultation (trade union,
>> politician...). A pure communication tool. Plus, it has a very poor stable
>> definition and understanding, and an even looser legal impact. Something
>> that usually brings a lot of misunderstandings, deadlocks...
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> __________________________
>>
>> Jean-Christophe Nothias
>> Editor in Chief
>> jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net
>>
>> @jc_nothias
>>
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>> Le 29 nov. 2013 à 20:52, Norbert Bollow a écrit :
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:28:57 +0000
>> schrieb Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>:
>>
>>
>> Recognizing that this is a late intervention (Thursday a big family
>>
>> holiday in the US), is it possible to replace the word
>>
>> "internationalization" with "globalization"? Increasingly we live in
>>
>> a world where nations, and by extension the "inter-national" is not
>>
>> an adequate term to define transborder, global phenomena
>>
>>
>> That's IMO a very valid point. Even though nation states and their
>> governments of course continue to have a significant role, it has
>> certainly become inadequate to try to understand transborder, global
>> phenomena by the method (that was helpful in earlier times) of
>> decomposing into what is happening at the national level plus what is
>> happening in inter-national trade and other areas of inter-national
>> relations.
>>
>> On the other hand, many civil society people including myself are very
>> wary of the term "globalization", as globalization has often increased
>> social injustices while doing nothing to resolve the kinds of concerns
>> that the further "internationalization" of ICANN is intended to address.
>>
>> Maybe yet another term could be used???
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>>
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>
> --
> ____________________
> Bertrand de La Chapelle
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>
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