[governance] NomCom for the Appeals Team: Update
Carlos Vera Quintana
cveraq at gmail.com
Thu May 23 15:03:29 EDT 2013
Normally (parliamentary practice) the president is elected from inside the board when is a member of the board with the same range of other members. In this situation, the vote of chairman tie when a draw situation occurs. So president does not vote UNLESS a draw occur.
If the president is elected from outside then normally is a non voting member and acts as an executive director to the board is an executive more than a director or member of the board.
I suggest to select the chair from the 5 members, with non voting rights, unless a draw situation occurs.
Carlos Vera
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El 23/05/2013, a las 13:30, Sonigitu Ekpe <soekpe at gmail.com> escribió:
> Dear All,
>
> I think, it will be better to go for Charter amendment as to have clarity on this causes.
>
> Since the two option had be use before now.
>
> Then lets decide on one option or use bottom options as a result of the "hat on"[Coordinators].
>
> Thank you
>
> Sonigitu Ekpe Aji :-@ SEA
>
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> On May 23, 2013 4:45 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>> Congrats to all especially to Wilson Abigaba
>> I second Ginger Paque as the non-voting chair.
>>
>> Regards
>> Mwendwa Kivuva
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 May 2013 17:48, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm reluctant to propose Charter amendments but this issue needs clarification in the Charter.
>>> I believe - open to correction - that the last time a NomCom was used the Chair was in fact one of the random selectees?
>>> The pointing to the Charter of a different group feels uncomfortable to me; it would seem preferable to refer to the obvious logic of having an uneven number of members to avoid a split vote, and including someone with no responsibility to vote who can facilitate the process itself.
>>> Deirdre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 May 2013 10:30, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>>> Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Usually in parliamentary practice, the non voting status means vote
>>>> > ONLY when there is not a majority in the board (i.e if and only if
>>>> > there is a draw in the board the chair vote to tie)
>>>>
>>>> More relevant to the question at hand is the language in RFC 1601 where
>>>> it is clear that the “non-voting chair” was in addition to the “members
>>>> picked at random from a pool of volunteers”, not one of them:
>>>>
>>>> The IETF nomination committee is formed every year and consists of
>>>> a non-voting chair designated by the Internet Society and seven
>>>> members picked at random from a pool of volunteers.
>>>>
>>>> Yet more significantly, our Charter says about the selection of the
>>>> “members selected at random”:
>>>>
>>>> A nominating committee will be composed of 5 IGC members selected
>>>> at random according to the process documented in RFC3797.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a copy of the abstract of RFC 3797:
>>>>
>>>> This document describes a method for making random selections in such
>>>> a way that the unbiased nature of the choice is publicly verifiable.
>>>> As an example, the selection of the voting members of the IETF
>>>> Nominations Committee (NomCom) from the pool of eligible volunteers
>>>> is used. Similar techniques would be applicable to other cases.
>>>>
>>>> Having reviewed all this, I'm coming to the conclusion that in view of
>>>> how the word “members” is used in RFC 1601 and in RFC 3797, it is
>>>> pretty clear that the practice which the drafters of this part of the
>>>> Charter were intending to establish is that the “non-voting chair” is a
>>>> participant in the NomCom in addition to the five “members” who are
>>>> selected randomly, for a total of six participants.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> Norbert
>>>>
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