[governance] NomCom for the Appeals Team: Update

[Sonigitu Ekpe]

Dear All,

I think, it will be better to go for Charter amendment as to have clarity
on this causes.

Since the two option had be use before now.

Then lets decide on one option or use bottom options as a result of the
"hat on"[Coordinators].

Thank you

Sonigitu Ekpe Aji :-@ SEA

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On May 23, 2013 4:45 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:

> Congrats to all especially to Wilson Abigaba
> I second Ginger Paque as the non-voting chair.
>
> Regards
> Mwendwa Kivuva
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2013 17:48, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm reluctant to propose Charter amendments but this issue needs
>> clarification in the Charter.
>> I believe - open to correction - that the last time a NomCom was used the
>> Chair was in fact one of the random selectees?
>> The pointing to the Charter of a different group feels uncomfortable to
>> me; it would seem preferable to refer to the obvious logic of having an
>> uneven number of members to avoid a split vote, and including someone with
>> no responsibility to vote who can facilitate the process itself.
>> Deirdre
>>
>>
>> On 23 May 2013 10:30, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Usually in parliamentary practice, the non voting status means vote
>>> > ONLY when there is not a majority in the board (i.e if and only if
>>> > there is a draw in the board the chair vote to tie)
>>>
>>> More relevant to the question at hand is the language in RFC 1601 where
>>> it is clear that the “non-voting chair” was in addition to the “members
>>> picked at random from a pool of volunteers”, not one of them:
>>>
>>>    The IETF nomination committee is formed every year and consists of
>>>    a non-voting chair designated by the Internet Society and seven
>>>    members picked at random from a pool of volunteers.
>>>
>>> Yet more significantly, our Charter says about the selection of the
>>> “members selected at random”:
>>>
>>>    A nominating committee will be composed of 5 IGC members selected
>>>    at random according to the process documented in RFC3797.
>>>
>>> Here is a copy of the abstract of RFC 3797:
>>>
>>>    This document describes a method for making random selections in such
>>>    a way that the unbiased nature of the choice is publicly verifiable.
>>>    As an example, the selection of the voting members of the IETF
>>>    Nominations Committee (NomCom) from the pool of eligible volunteers
>>>    is used.  Similar techniques would be applicable to other cases.
>>>
>>> Having reviewed all this, I'm coming to the conclusion that in view of
>>> how the word “members” is used in RFC 1601 and in RFC 3797, it is
>>> pretty clear that the practice which the drafters of this part of the
>>> Charter were intending to establish is that the “non-voting chair” is a
>>> participant in the NomCom in addition to the five “members” who are
>>> selected randomly, for a total of six participants.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Norbert
>>>
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