[governance] Fwd: Final composition of the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation

[parminder]

On Saturday 30 March 2013 04:47 PM, parminder wrote:
>
> On Friday 29 March 2013 10:00 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>> Wow, Gotcha...
>
> Adam
>
> One keeps hoping that you and your ilk will one day learn to conduct 
> an open host

sorry, open honest not host

> discussion in the democratic tradition. I am sick of this kind of 
> petulant contemptuous responses to what is a siple and 
> straight-forward effort to ask questions and improve democratic 
> processes. But I dont think you understand democracy. In democracy, a 
> few are 'given' roles of exercising power and all others take the role 
> of seeking accountability. That is how it works, there is no other 
> way.... And, of course, those in power resist being accountable, and 
> develop various devices to do so - including having people around 
> trying to disrupt democratic debates, and attributing motives... That 
> is what I see happening here. There are repeated attempts to shut up 
> those who question the processes of exercising power.... This is most 
> un civil society like....... This kind of blatant foot-soldiering for 
> those who excercise power in the status quo must stop. If this 
> continues, it will kill this forum. And such a future I suspect may be 
> looming rather close. We cannot keep expending our civil society 
> credentials and credibility and think that it will not finally run out 
> - just because we are at the same time getting friendlier to some 
> powerful people.
>
> parminder
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:18 AM, parminder 
>> <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>>> On Friday 29 March 2013 08:03 PM, McTim wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you are incorrect.  The folk who are involved in Internet2, amongst
>>>> other REN projects are EXACTLY those people that the FP would include.
>>>
>>> So you are saying that members of Internet2 fit the definition of 
>>> technical
>>> (and academic) community that the focal point gave us which is 
>>> "community of
>>> organizations and individuals who are involved in the day-to-day 
>>> operational
>>> management of the Internet and who work within this community" ? You 
>>> think
>>> that Internet2 is involved in 'day to say operational management of the
>>> Internet'?
>>>
>> I think probably yes <http://www.internet2.edu/membership/index.cfm>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> And that therefore Internet2 members could have been considered as 
>>> nominees
>>> from the technical and academic community by the focal point for the 
>>> WG on
>>> EC?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Strange that they qualify for OECD body as technical community but 
>>>>> not
>>>>> for
>>>>> the UN system.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Evidently, the definition of even the technical community part of the
>>>>> 'technical and academic community' employed by the Focal point is
>>>>> erronoeus,
>>>>> what to say about the 'academic community' part which seem to have 
>>>>> simply
>>>>> been banished.
>>>> but they haven't been, you are simply mistaken.
>>>
>>> How am I mistaken? Who is the academic community member in the final 
>>> list?
>>> Like someone not closely associated with ISOC and not running a 
>>> country tld
>>> whereby one qualifies through the above definition of being engaged 
>>> in 'day
>>> to day operational management of the Internet'?
>>>
>>> parminder
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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