[governance] Fwd: Final composition of the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation

[parminder]

On Friday 29 March 2013 10:00 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
> Wow, Gotcha...

Adam

One keeps hoping that you and your ilk will one day learn to conduct an 
open host discussion in the democratic tradition. I am sick of this kind 
of petulant contemptuous responses to what is a siple and 
straight-forward effort to ask questions and improve democratic 
processes. But I dont think you understand democracy. In democracy, a 
few are 'given' roles of exercising power and all others take the role 
of seeking accountability. That is how it works, there is no other 
way.... And, of course, those in power resist being accountable, and 
develop various devices to do so - including having people around trying 
to disrupt democratic debates, and attributing motives... That is what I 
see happening here. There are repeated attempts to shut up those who 
question the processes of exercising power.... This is most un civil 
society like....... This kind of blatant foot-soldiering for those who 
excercise power in the status quo must stop. If this continues, it will 
kill this forum. And such a future I suspect may be looming rather 
close. We cannot keep expending our civil society credentials and 
credibility and think that it will not finally run out - just because we 
are at the same time getting friendlier to some powerful people.

parminder


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> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:18 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>> On Friday 29 March 2013 08:03 PM, McTim wrote:
>>> <snip>
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>>> you are incorrect.  The folk who are involved in Internet2, amongst
>>> other REN projects are EXACTLY those people that the FP would include.
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>> So you are saying that members of Internet2 fit the definition of technical
>> (and academic) community that the focal point gave us which is "community of
>> organizations and individuals who are involved in the day-to-day operational
>> management of the Internet and who work within this community" ? You think
>> that Internet2 is involved in 'day to say operational management of the
>> Internet'?
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> I think probably yes <http://www.internet2.edu/membership/index.cfm>
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> Adam
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>> And that therefore Internet2 members could have been considered as nominees
>> from the technical and academic community by the focal point for the WG on
>> EC?
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>>>> Strange that they qualify for OECD body as technical community but not
>>>> for
>>>> the UN system.....
>>>>
>>>> Evidently, the definition of even the technical community part of the
>>>> 'technical and academic community' employed by the Focal point is
>>>> erronoeus,
>>>> what to say about the 'academic community' part which seem to have simply
>>>> been banished.
>>> but they haven't been, you are simply mistaken.
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>> How am I mistaken? Who is the academic community member in the final list?
>> Like someone not closely associated with ISOC and not running a country tld
>> whereby one qualifies through the above definition of being engaged in 'day
>> to day operational management of the Internet'?
>>
>> parminder
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