[governance] Spamhaus

[Adam Peake]

Broken, or perhaps not?

<http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/03/that-internet-war-apocalypse-is-a-lie/>

Adam




On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar
<chaitanyabd at gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually that's what I do most often - though I've NEVER paid to delist -
> only requested; and that's always gone through. Happened a few years back
> when Yahoo's mail service blocked off my IP (though my volume of mail to
> Yahoo was significant good mail) - one polite email requesting a delisting
> was all it took!
>
> My IPs (all of them, even the ones that are not MX or A records - could be
> NS or others) are clean - there's no reason that shouldnt happen.
>
> Overall I'd say Spamhaus is one of the most cooperative, positive experience
> I've ever seen. Wish everyone (DNSBL community) were more like them...
>
> -C
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Let me ask you a question.  Did you actually face significant volumes of
>> lost mail from those "pay to delist" blocklists?
>>
>> Or was this a case of looking up your IP on say mxtoolbox.com and figuring
>> out "oh no, I am blocked, let me get out of every single blocklist that
>> mxtoolbox says that I'm on?"
>>
>> --srs (iPad)
>>
>> On 28-Mar-2013, at 18:23, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>>
>> > On 03/28/2013 01:52 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> In particular please see section 2.2.5 on conflict of interest which
>> >> says that while a dnsbl may be run as a commercial proposition by
>> >> charging a fee from sites that use it, it MUST not charge for the
>> >> removal of a listing, as this "steers periliously close to notions of
>> >> extortion, blackmail or a protection racket".
>> >
>> > This is a RFC recommendation typically not followed. In at least two
>> > cases we were asked for money to have the IP removed from their blacklist.
>> > In one case, they would remove for free only seven days after the request,
>> > unless we were willing to pay US$100.
>> >
>> > frt rgds
>> >
>> > --c.a.
>
>
>
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