[governance] Spamhaus

[Chaitanya Dhareshwar]

Actually that's what I do most often - though I've NEVER paid to delist -
only requested; and that's always gone through. Happened a few years back
when Yahoo's mail service blocked off my IP (though my volume of mail to
Yahoo was significant good mail) - one polite email requesting a delisting
was all it took!

My IPs (all of them, even the ones that are not MX or A records - could be
NS or others) are clean - there's no reason that shouldnt happen.

Overall I'd say Spamhaus is one of the most cooperative, positive
experience I've ever seen. Wish everyone (DNSBL community) were more like
them...

-C

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh at hserus.net>wrote:

> Let me ask you a question.  Did you actually face significant volumes of
> lost mail from those "pay to delist" blocklists?
>
> Or was this a case of looking up your IP on say mxtoolbox.com and
> figuring out "oh no, I am blocked, let me get out of every single blocklist
> that mxtoolbox says that I'm on?"
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> On 28-Mar-2013, at 18:23, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>
> > On 03/28/2013 01:52 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> > [...]
> >> In particular please see section 2.2.5 on conflict of interest which
> >> says that while a dnsbl may be run as a commercial proposition by
> >> charging a fee from sites that use it, it MUST not charge for the
> >> removal of a listing, as this "steers periliously close to notions of
> >> extortion, blackmail or a protection racket".
> >
> > This is a RFC recommendation typically not followed. In at least two
> cases we were asked for money to have the IP removed from their blacklist.
> In one case, they would remove for free only seven days after the request,
> unless we were willing to pay US$100.
> >
> > frt rgds
> >
> > --c.a.
>
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