[governance] Tallin Manual - a Cyber Warfare convention?

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Wonderful. You have now compared bush and Obama to as choice a 
collection of genocidal dictators as you can find and managed to throw 
in the now obligatory big brother comparison as well

Purely as a history lesson to you, Louis, concentration camps started 
as British internment camps for the boer people during the boer war. 
Hitler extended the concept and also introduced death camps.

The Soviet (and before them, Tsarist) and Chinese labor camps were a 
cheap way for them to get large amounts of convict labor to mine gold, 
build highways and rail lines etc in resource rich areas with 
inhospitable weather. So a subtle distinction and one that wouldn't 
matter much to the victims of either regime, but one that you might 
bear in mind when scattering disagreeable analogies around like confetti

--srs (htc one x)



On 24 March 2013 10:07:52 PM "Louis Pouzin (well)" <pouzin at well.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>
> >   As Samuel Morse might have remarked, “What God hath wrought”.
> >
> > A landmark document created at the request of NATO has proposed a set of
> > rules for how international cyberwarfare should be conducted. Written by 20
> > experts in conjunction with the International Committee of the Red Cross
> > and the US Cyber Command, the*Tallinn Manual on the International Law
> > Applicable to Cyber 
> Warfare*<http://issuu.com/nato_ccd_coe/docs/tallinnmanual?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true>
> >  analyzes the rules of conventional war and applies them to
> > state-sponsored cyberattacks.
> >
> >
> > 
> http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare
> >
> >  - - -
> >
>
> Thanks Ian for precious links. It seems that time is coming for legal
> definitions of cyberwarfare, in which we are living already. Initiatives
> belong to the powers that be, the only ones with the capacity to follow or
> violate the rules. CS doesn't have much influence, except through
> occasional media power.
>
> Some more frightening documents on real war:
>
> http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/latin_america_territorio_libre_from_the_cia_partner/?source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%20Newsletter%20%28Premium%29_7_30_110
>
> http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/projects/globalizing-torture
>
> One may observe that oppressive regimes resort to coded sanitized language
> to mean illegal and criminal activities. This was anticipated by Orwell
> (newspeak), and turned real with soviet labor camp (concentration), nazism
> special treatment (gas chamber), maoism reeducation (deportation), bushism
> and obamism extraordinary rendition (torture), inter alia.
>
> Louis
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.igcaucus.org/pipermail/governance/attachments/20130325/a4f403cc/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
____________________________________________________________
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
     governance at lists.igcaucus.org
To be removed from the list, visit:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing

For all other list information and functions, see:
     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/

Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t