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<p>Wonderful. You have now compared bush and Obama to as choice a
collection of genocidal dictators as you can find and managed to throw
in the now obligatory big brother comparison as well <br>
<br>
Purely as a history lesson to you, Louis, concentration camps started
as British internment camps for the boer people during the boer war.
Hitler extended the concept and also introduced death camps. <br>
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The Soviet (and before them, Tsarist) and Chinese labor camps were a
cheap way for them to get large amounts of convict labor to mine gold,
build highways and rail lines etc in resource rich areas with
inhospitable weather. So a subtle distinction and one that wouldn't
matter much to the victims of either regime, but one that you might
bear in mind when scattering disagreeable analogies around like confetti <br>
<br>
--srs (htc one x)<br>
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<p>On 24 March 2013 10:07:52 PM "Louis Pouzin (well)" <pouzin@well.com>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Ian Peter
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target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span>
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<div><span><font color="#333333"><font face="Helvetica"><span><font
style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">As Samuel Morse might have remarked, “What God hath
wrought”.</font></span></font></font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#333333"><font face="Helvetica"><span><font
style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt"></font></span></font></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#333333"><font face="Helvetica"><span><font
style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">A </font></span><font
style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt">landmark document created at the request of NATO has
proposed a set of rules for how international cyberwarfare should be
conducted.
Written by 20 experts in conjunction with the International Committee
of the Red
Cross and the US Cyber Command, the</font></font></font></span><font
style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt"><a
href="http://issuu.com/nato_ccd_coe/docs/tallinnmanual?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true"
target="_blank"><i><font color="#fb4834"><font
style="TEXT-DECORATION:none" face="Helvetica">Tallinn Manual on the
International Law Applicable to Cyber
Warfare</font></font></i></a></font><span><font face="Helvetica"><font
style="FONT-SIZE:10.5pt"><font color="#333333"><span> </span>analyzes
the rules of conventional war
and applies them to state-sponsored
cyberattacks.</font></font></font></span></div>
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<div><a
title="http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare"
href="http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare"
target="_blank">http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare</a></div>
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- - -<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>Thanks Ian for precious links.
It seems that time is coming for legal definitions of cyberwarfare, in
which we are living already. Initiatives belong to the powers that be,
the only ones with the capacity to follow or violate the rules. CS
doesn't have much influence, except through occasional media power.<br>
<br>Some more frightening documents on real war:<br><br><a
href="http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/latin_america_territorio_libre_from_the_cia_partner/?source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%20Newsletter%20%28Premium%29_7_30_110">http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/latin_america_territorio_libre_from_the_cia_partner/?source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%20Newsletter%20%28Premium%29_7_30_110</a><br>
<br><a
href="http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/projects/globalizing-torture">http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/projects/globalizing-torture</a><br><br>One
may observe that oppressive regimes resort to coded sanitized language
to mean illegal and criminal activities. This was anticipated by Orwell
(newspeak), and turned real with soviet labor camp (concentration),
nazism special treatment (gas chamber), maoism reeducation
(deportation), bushism and obamism extraordinary rendition (torture),
inter alia.<br>
<br>Louis<br><br> </div></div><br>
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