[governance] Asking the U.S. government to allow Google to publish more national security request data

[McTim]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>
> McTIm, what you are talking about is entirely a different matter, and
> nothing to do with PRISM which pried on actual content of non US ians

well to be precise, the NSA has been doing this for decades.  PRISM
being a supposedly 20M USD program can do nothing of that sort.

... My
> email is clear abut this, isnt it


yes you said:

"I would like to see if they made any similar request to US gov before
Edward Snowden happened"

I showed you an article that described how this happened in March.



... Google's letter is also clear that it
> is about Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) requests. These
> requests all pertain to actual content of non US isans and that is not what
> you are talking about in your email)



again, to be precise, I sent two links and quoted from one...none of
the words in my previous email on this thread were mine.


.... Let Google show us any
> communication that made to the US gov regarding complying with these


I doubt they would publish these, as it may not be legal to do so, but
you have to ask them directly.


> requests. Or you on their behalf. That would be relevant. Of course Google
> watches spaces like these. if they have any such letter that would do a lot
> to save their face.... So, if they do not come out with such a letter(s)
> within a day or two, it is safe to assume that they never asked th US gov to
> allow them at least some degree of transparency on PRISM compliance


no, it is not safe to assume that at all.



....  In
> fact still no one, including Google, has told us how FISA requests were
> received and complied with.

here:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/08/cooperation-methods-protected-innocents-from-prism/


 At least at this stage someone needs to tell us
> that.

You may want to know, but that doesn't mean "someone needs to tell us".



 Google and others have simply denied they knew anything of the name
> PRISM, but they must certainly know FISA.

see link above.

 We can talk about that. Let  them
> not tell the number of requests if they are prohibited from telling the
> numbers. But let us know at least what is that we the non US users of Google
> are exposed. How does it work... Hos is it possibe for non US ians to trust
> Google and other involved companies after this.


see link above.


-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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