[governance] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Sun Jun 9 08:46:22 EDT 2013


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:10 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> What this below appears to say is that the surveillance procedures are
> done within and in accordance with a broad interpretation of US law which
> is, of course, designed to protect the rights of US citizens (how well that
> is being done is another question of course).  ****
>
> What it also says is that "foreigners" i.e. everyone else in the world are
> to be treated as potential suspects and are thus fair game.  Given the
> global reach and current dominance of US Internet corporations and the
> central role of the USG in all aspects of global Internet activities
> including Internet governance (or lack thereof) and of the US based
> technical community in all aspects of the technical operation of the
> Internet the implications of this position need hardly be spelled out.****
>
> Thus, at least in this context we, i.e. everyone else in the world appear
> to have no rights and little protections except those that totally
> outclassed institutions such as the EU or other national, privacy
> protection regimes might provide to their citizens.  ****
>
> Of course, since the parties from whom the data is being acquired i.e. the
> dominant US Internet corporations are not directly subject to any laws
> outside of the US and since they along with the USG and their civil society
> and technical community collaborators have been so active in ensuring that
> no such regulatory regime could be created, such protections seem to be
> more or less non-operational.
>
Sovereignty concerns prevent such a regime from ever coming about, it's not
"collaborators" preventing this.


> ****
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I posed earlier to
> McTim and others re: the position and response of the "technical community"
> to these revelations.
>

Since the T&A Community only has specific reps to deal with UN activities,
you probably won't get one, though you may get statements from individuals
and/or specific organisations.

BTW, can you look into where my "paymasters" have been sending my checks?
 Like Suresh, mine have never gotten to me!

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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