[governance] IGF Cancelled & thoughts about 2014
parminder
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Tue Jul 30 13:46:00 EDT 2013
On Tuesday 30 July 2013 11:10 PM, parminder wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 30 July 2013 10:59 PM, shaila mistry wrote:
>> It is also possible that everything was planned for and put in place,
>> and at the eleventh hour they received additional costs from the UN.
>
> BTW, what is the source of the information that there was indeed a
> sudden additional costs been communicated from the UN, about the cost
> shown in the Indonesian funding strategy document.... parminder
sorry, meant 'above the cost shown in the Indonesian funding strategy
document;,,,,
>
>
>> I also wonder if there was a political change of heart once the full
>> impact of thee cost and principle of Internet governance and the
>> proposed debates.
>>
>> The net publicity generated by this "rumor could be catalytic in
>> capturing the attention of key players which also could result in
>> change of policy at UN level regarding funding or offers of funding
>> to come through for this year or for the next.
>>
>> Shaila
>>
>>
>> *The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !*
>> *..................... the renaissance of composure !
>> *
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
>> *To:* "governance at lists.igcaucus.org"
>> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>
>> *Cc:* Internet Governance Caucus <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2013 5:14 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [governance] IGF Cancelled & thoughts about 2014
>>
>> Something on this scale is best prepared and venues finalized like
>> two years in advance. And set timelines with deadlines for specific
>> tasks prepared as pointers for the successful local hosts.
>>
>> --srs (iPad)
>>
>> On 29-Jul-2013, at 17:23, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org
>> <mailto:rguerra at privaterra.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Izumi,
>>>
>>> Let met concur that I am hearing the same thing from contacts in the
>>> country.
>>>
>>> As has been reported by other posts, discussions and efforts are
>>> underway to 1. see if the event in the country can be saved, and 2.
>>> develop possible contingency plans should the event not be able to
>>> be hosted in Indonesia.
>>>
>>> While other discussions have focused on options regarding dealing
>>> with the situation, let me advance another issue - that being the
>>> 2014 IGF. To my knowledge, no country has yet publicly stated an
>>> offer to host the event. Hopefully, a country that is far more able
>>> to support and bring the political support needed to host the IGF
>>> can step forward.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2013-07-28, at 12:22 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> A friend who is with Indonesian Civil Society working with the
>>>> organizing committee sent me the following.
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> It's true that IGF 2013 committee is facing financial problem and
>>>> it's likely to be cancelled. But, we have not announced official
>>>> notification of the cancellation yet since now UN is trying to help
>>>> us finding resources to cope with it. We will update later about
>>>> the result.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/7/28 Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net
>>>> <mailto:suresh at hserus.net>>
>>>>
>>>> Given marilla's email, this appears to be a nonstarter, and so,
>>>> moot.
>>>>
>>>> And it sounds very strange if some people were to continuously
>>>> disparage a community or organization on the one hand, and
>>>> demand sponsorship money from them on the other, on the grounds
>>>> that the amount involved is hardly a rounding error in their
>>>> revenue (or even their ebitda), just saying.
>>>>
>>>> --srs (iPad)
>>>>
>>>> On 27-Jul-2013, at 23:44, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
>>>> <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net
>>>> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> All of them opposed UN funding for the IGF
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there anyone who in view of the current debacle is still
>>>> opposed to
>>>> > UN funding for the IGF?
>>>> >
>>>> >> but can they explain why they opposed 'committed' funding
>>>> from ICANN
>>>> >> collected Internet taxes, say of 2 million every year...
>>>> Isn't that
>>>> >> the right model of funding the IGF , keeping if safe from
>>>> staist as
>>>> >> well corporate controls....
>>>> >
>>>> > I am not sure that ICANN's collection of domain name taxes is
>>>> the right
>>>> > funding model for anything (it presupposes that domain names
>>>> are sold
>>>> > for a price which makes them quite unaffordable to a very
>>>> significant
>>>> > number of poor people) but as long as ICANN's funding model
>>>> remains as
>>>> > it currently is, in view of ICANN's financials [1], funding
>>>> at least a
>>>> > significant part of the cost of IGF meetings from ICANN's budget
>>>> > indeed makes a lot of sense.
>>>> > [1] http://www.icann.org/en/about/financials
>>>> >
>>>> > Greetings,
>>>> > Norbert
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Recommendations for effective and constructive participation
>>>> in IGC:
>>>> > 1. Respond to the content of assertions and arguments, not to
>>>> the person
>>>> > 2. Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you
>>>> accept
>>>> >
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>>>> >> Izumi Aizu <<
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>>>> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
>>>> Japan
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