[governance] IGF Cancelled & thoughts about 2014
parminder
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Tue Jul 30 13:40:57 EDT 2013
On Tuesday 30 July 2013 10:59 PM, shaila mistry wrote:
> It is also possible that everything was planned for and put in place,
> and at the eleventh hour they received additional costs from the UN.
BTW, what is the source of the information that there was indeed a
sudden additional costs been communicated from the UN, about the cost
shown in the Indonesian funding strategy document.... parminder
> I also wonder if there was a political change of heart once the full
> impact of thee cost and principle of Internet governance and the
> proposed debates.
>
> The net publicity generated by this "rumor could be catalytic in
> capturing the attention of key players which also could result in
> change of policy at UN level regarding funding or offers of funding
> to come through for this year or for the next.
>
> Shaila
>
>
> *The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !*
> *..................... the renaissance of composure !
> *
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
> *To:* "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>;
> Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>
> *Cc:* Internet Governance Caucus <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2013 5:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] IGF Cancelled & thoughts about 2014
>
> Something on this scale is best prepared and venues finalized like two
> years in advance. And set timelines with deadlines for specific tasks
> prepared as pointers for the successful local hosts.
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> On 29-Jul-2013, at 17:23, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org
> <mailto:rguerra at privaterra.org>> wrote:
>
>> Izumi,
>>
>> Let met concur that I am hearing the same thing from contacts in the
>> country.
>>
>> As has been reported by other posts, discussions and efforts are
>> underway to 1. see if the event in the country can be saved, and 2.
>> develop possible contingency plans should the event not be able to be
>> hosted in Indonesia.
>>
>> While other discussions have focused on options regarding dealing
>> with the situation, let me advance another issue - that being the
>> 2014 IGF. To my knowledge, no country has yet publicly stated an
>> offer to host the event. Hopefully, a country that is far more able
>> to support and bring the political support needed to host the IGF can
>> step forward.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2013-07-28, at 12:22 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> A friend who is with Indonesian Civil Society working with the
>>> organizing committee sent me the following.
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> It's true that IGF 2013 committee is facing financial problem and
>>> it's likely to be cancelled. But, we have not announced official
>>> notification of the cancellation yet since now UN is trying to help
>>> us finding resources to cope with it. We will update later about the
>>> result.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> ----------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/7/28 Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net
>>> <mailto:suresh at hserus.net>>
>>>
>>> Given marilla's email, this appears to be a nonstarter, and so,
>>> moot.
>>>
>>> And it sounds very strange if some people were to continuously
>>> disparage a community or organization on the one hand, and
>>> demand sponsorship money from them on the other, on the grounds
>>> that the amount involved is hardly a rounding error in their
>>> revenue (or even their ebitda), just saying.
>>>
>>> --srs (iPad)
>>>
>>> On 27-Jul-2013, at 23:44, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
>>> <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net
>>> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> All of them opposed UN funding for the IGF
>>> >
>>> > Is there anyone who in view of the current debacle is still
>>> opposed to
>>> > UN funding for the IGF?
>>> >
>>> >> but can they explain why they opposed 'committed' funding
>>> from ICANN
>>> >> collected Internet taxes, say of 2 million every year...
>>> Isn't that
>>> >> the right model of funding the IGF , keeping if safe from
>>> staist as
>>> >> well corporate controls....
>>> >
>>> > I am not sure that ICANN's collection of domain name taxes is
>>> the right
>>> > funding model for anything (it presupposes that domain names
>>> are sold
>>> > for a price which makes them quite unaffordable to a very
>>> significant
>>> > number of poor people) but as long as ICANN's funding model
>>> remains as
>>> > it currently is, in view of ICANN's financials [1], funding at
>>> least a
>>> > significant part of the cost of IGF meetings from ICANN's budget
>>> > indeed makes a lot of sense.
>>> > [1] http://www.icann.org/en/about/financials
>>> >
>>> > Greetings,
>>> > Norbert
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> > 1. Respond to the content of assertions and arguments, not to
>>> the person
>>> > 2. Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept
>>> >
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