[governance] Re: [IRPCoalition] IGF - and the corporatisation scandal

[Shcherbovich Andrey]

Dear Anriette,

when and where the meeting will take place?

30.07.2013, 13:21, "Anriette Esterhuysen" <anriette at apc.org>:
> I will raise this question (about if and how the document was used, and
> if this is different from previous IGFs etc.) at tomorrow's MAG meeting.
>
> Btw, the meeting is open to observers.
>
> Anriette
>
> On 30/07/2013 07:40, parminder wrote:
>
>>  On Tuesday 30 July 2013 01:53 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>>>  Thanks for this Norbert. Do we know if the document was being actively
>>>  used to raise funds or secure sponsorships?
>>   But how does that matter if similar practices, as you say, has always
>>  been followed, and consequently can be considered to have become the
>>  norm in the IGF context?
>>
>>  BTW i did raise this particular question in my initial postings on the
>>  issue as a serious thing that we need to have information on...
>>
>>  Also, the right place, I would think, to ask this question is on the
>>  MAG list, and perhaps then to inform us about the response...
>>
>>  parminder
>>>  On 29/07/2013 19:21, Norbert Bollow wrote:
>>>>  Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org>:
>>>>>  Has anyone actually read this proposal in full?
>>>>  Yes I did - both for the version on Google docs and for the somewhat
>>>>  different version that was quite prominently on the host country
>>>>  website until very recently (it was still there the day before
>>>>  yesterday, but it's gone now.)
>>>>>  Assuming it is an
>>>>>  official proposal (which is just an assumption) it does not actually
>>>>>  offer proper speaking slots for cash at all.
>>>>  It is true that it did not come quite as low as that, but it
>>>>  nevertheless went quite far on the path of commercialization -
>>>>  acceptable for a commercial conference, but IMO quite unacceptable for
>>>>  a UN conference or any other kind of diplomatic process.
>>>  Agree.. it did not go quite as far as that, which was what I was trying
>>>  to point out.
>>>
>>>  And yes - I agree with you completely, the tone made it sound like a
>>>  commercial conference. My first reaction was also that it looked as if
>>>  they were letting people who sponsor come in and dominate proceedings,
>>>  but then I looked more closely.
>>>
>>>  As I said previously, I was not expressing approval of this commercial..
>>>  just saying I have seen it before, including in regional IGFs - and
>>>  global IGFs have not been free of branding.
>>>
>>>  Anriette
>>>>  Apparently the perspective of the relevant people at the UN on this is
>>>>  similar to mine.
>>>>
>>>>  Markus Kummer recently (Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:08:42 +0200 to be
>>>>  precise, i.e. 12 minutes ago) posted the following on ISOC's Internet
>>>>  Policy mailing list:
>>>>
>>>>  : As regards the commercialization of the event, the UN is very clear
>>>>  : in this regard: this is a no go area and I understand that the IGF
>>>>  : Secretariat requested them to withdraw this document back in
>>>>  : February. As far as I know it has not been on their website for some
>>>>  : time. Unquote
>>>>
>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>  Norbert
>
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