[governance] Re: [IRPCoalition] IGF - and the corporatisation scandal

Tue Jul 30 07:00:40 EDT 2013

On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Shcherbovich Andrey wrote:

> Dear Anriette,
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> 30.07.2013, 13:21, "Anriette Esterhuysen" <anriette at apc.org>:
>> I will raise this question (about if and how the document was used, and
>> if this is different from previous IGFs etc.) at tomorrow's MAG meeting.
>> 
>> Btw, the meeting is open to observers.
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>> Anriette
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>> On 30/07/2013 07:40, parminder wrote:
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>>>  On Tuesday 30 July 2013 01:53 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>>>>  Thanks for this Norbert. Do we know if the document was being actively
>>>>  used to raise funds or secure sponsorships?
>>>   But how does that matter if similar practices, as you say, has always
>>>  been followed, and consequently can be considered to have become the
>>>  norm in the IGF context?
>>> 
>>>  BTW i did raise this particular question in my initial postings on the
>>>  issue as a serious thing that we need to have information on...
>>> 
>>>  Also, the right place, I would think, to ask this question is on the
>>>  MAG list, and perhaps then to inform us about the response...
>>> 
>>>  parminder
>>>>  On 29/07/2013 19:21, Norbert Bollow wrote:
>>>>>  Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org>:
>>>>>>  Has anyone actually read this proposal in full?
>>>>>  Yes I did - both for the version on Google docs and for the somewhat
>>>>>  different version that was quite prominently on the host country
>>>>>  website until very recently (it was still there the day before
>>>>>  yesterday, but it's gone now.)
>>>>>>  Assuming it is an
>>>>>>  official proposal (which is just an assumption) it does not actually
>>>>>>  offer proper speaking slots for cash at all.
>>>>>  It is true that it did not come quite as low as that, but it
>>>>>  nevertheless went quite far on the path of commercialization -
>>>>>  acceptable for a commercial conference, but IMO quite unacceptable for
>>>>>  a UN conference or any other kind of diplomatic process.
>>>>  Agree.. it did not go quite as far as that, which was what I was trying
>>>>  to point out.
>>>> 
>>>>  And yes - I agree with you completely, the tone made it sound like a
>>>>  commercial conference. My first reaction was also that it looked as if
>>>>  they were letting people who sponsor come in and dominate proceedings,
>>>>  but then I looked more closely.
>>>> 
>>>>  As I said previously, I was not expressing approval of this commercial..
>>>>  just saying I have seen it before, including in regional IGFs - and
>>>>  global IGFs have not been free of branding.
>>>> 
>>>>  Anriette
>>>>>  Apparently the perspective of the relevant people at the UN on this is
>>>>>  similar to mine.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Markus Kummer recently (Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:08:42 +0200 to be
>>>>>  precise, i.e. 12 minutes ago) posted the following on ISOC's Internet
>>>>>  Policy mailing list:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  : As regards the commercialization of the event, the UN is very clear
>>>>>  : in this regard: this is a no go area and I understand that the IGF
>>>>>  : Secretariat requested them to withdraw this document back in
>>>>>  : February. As far as I know it has not been on their website for some
>>>>>  : time. Unquote
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>  Norbert
>> 
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>> anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org
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