[governance] IGF Cancelled

Fri Jul 26 01:11:03 EDT 2013

So while we work out avenues for the future, as SR suggested maybe we can
have something out of the remaining 1.1 mil that is currently available.
Can someone from the organizing committee address this (I'm guessing
some/most of them will be on this list)?

Thanks,
C

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:

>
> On Friday 26 July 2013 10:16 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
> On 26/07/13 12:34, parminder wrote:
>
>
> On Friday 26 July 2013 09:16 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
> On 26/07/13 11:31, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:
>
> According to third party sources I asked, ie not the Indonesians, one
> major item that added to the cost is that the UN had apparently asked for
> US$900k to fly personnel and security equipment for the event. ****
>
>
> Time to cut the UN apron strings.
>
>
> Why sure, we can check with Google. They will be quite happy to run the
> global internet policy dialogue.... It is most astounding that after
> subverting and ditching the tradition of strictly public funding for policy
> spaces and activities, and adopting the neoliberal and anti-democratic (and
> fancy) multistakeholder funding model, now that it has collapsed one is to
> blame the public systems for it....
>
>
> But $900k is ridiculous,
>
>
> Yes, we consider looking at local security detail etc.... but we in
> developing countries are quite aware of how whispers of inefficiency,
> corruption etc are used deviously to discredit public systems, which is not
> to say that they should not be improved, and internal efficiencies cannot
> be sought... Lets get down to seeing how this figure of $900, if it is
> true, - and I know the power of rightfully placed rumours - can be brought
> down. That is a different talk...
>
>
>  and given that a lot of the obstruction of the IGF has come from UNOG
> (funding constraints, censorship, Secretariat-led policy direction), other
> options have to be considered.
>
>
> Again, similar standard 'logics' against public system. Beyond a point one
> cannot keep responding to them. BTW, it is the 'multistakeholders' that
> were strictly against UN based stable funding for the IGF during the
> proceedings of the WG on IGF improvements , and what censorship are you
> talking about..... and dont know what you mean by secretariat -led policy,
> which secretariat BTW is now led by an ISOC appointed and paid
> person.......
>
> We have WTO, ISO, etc as intergovernmental organisations that are
> notionally separate from the UN, so why not the IGF as well
>
>
> No problem for it to be notionally separate from anywhere, till it remains
> a public system and not corporate driven... (there is a limit to which the
> multistakeholder front for corporate control can be employed)
>
>
>  - a free-standing international multi-stakeholder conference.  This is
> independent of the question of how it is funded
>
>
> Sorry to say, that it must take extreme political naivete - and I know you
> arent politically naive - to say that what a policy space is and does is
> "independent of the the question of how it is funded".... There is lots of
> lots of literature, norms as well as legal frameworks with regard to
> democratic political systems that deal with precisely this connection....
> and this connection is universally seen as very strong and important to
> always be mindful of.
>
>  - but it's clear there will be no funding flowing from the UN anyway,
>
>
> give the dog a bad name and then hang it... Starve the UN of funds, dont
> allow the IGF improvement working group to decide on UN funding for the IGF
> and then use the argument 'there anyway isnt going to be any flow of
> funding from the UN'.... Doesnt work.
>
>
>
> so I don't see how cutting the UN loose would make the situation worse.
>
>
> If you are intent on not seeing how corporate controlled policy spaces
> will be lot worse than where we are today, I really cannot do much about
> it...
>
> parminder
>
>
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