[governance] scope of "Internet governance" (was Re: Fwd: Why do US and EU trade negotiators hate the Berne Copyright Limitations and Exceptions?)

[michael gurstein]

I didn't mention CIRP at all and quite frankly I'm not sure what you mean by
a "CIRP-like body". 

 

What I did say was that I believe there is the need to examine these matters
in the broad context of a (global) public interest. how, or what form a
response "in the public interest" might take (or for that matter who or how
that response might be determined or executed if in fact a response was
deemed necessary) I think is an open question. However, it is to my mind
precisely those kinds of issues that need to be addressed. 

 

It will be a long and winding road to get anywhere near an effective
resolution of those questions but the issues requiring some kind of response
are coming with increasing frequency and in the absence of a set of
responses based on collaboratively arrived at rules and principles we are
left with "might makes right" or "ruling by default" which of course gives
maximum power to incumbents.

 

M

 

From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:51 PM
To: michael gurstein
Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Norbert Bollow
Subject: Re: [governance] scope of "Internet governance" (was Re: Fwd: Why
do US and EU trade negotiators hate the Berne Copyright Limitations and
Exceptions?)

 

Michael,

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:48 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
wrote:

 

<snip>

 

I have yet to find anything on FB that is "necessary".

[MG>] I think the example that is generally used is that Ghana first
announced its election results on FB. what consequences followed from that
(if any) I'm not sure of, but one could imagine how that kind of practice
would lead to services/functions that in some contexts are "necessary". 

 

I disagree.  Posting results on FB and only FB would be a disservice to the
citizenry.  As one of many outlets, I think it is fine.

 

Posting the results on the Internet (on the Election Commission website or
official government website) is useful, but that doesn't make a case for
global regulation of the network by all Electoral Commissions.

 

If mPesa is providing the only 

 

mPesa is one of many, it's not the only.

 

"banking" service available for vast numbers of the population of Kenya or
wherever, presumably the service can be seen as a "necessary" one and thus
subject to some sort of regulation.

 

mPesa and other mobile money services are heavily regulated in KE and
elsewhere in Africa.  I have no quibble with this at all.  I just don't
think we need a CIRP (or something like it) to regulate activity on the
Internet.

 

<snip>

 

At that point, there would need to be a discussion why these "necessary
services are on FB and not in the public domain.

[MG>] that's a good question and one worth addressing. the idea of a global
public domain email service has been mooted from time to time (and I believe
something of that sort was established in Sweden through the postal service.
As you well know, there are pro's and con's for this. My point though is to
simply say that these kinds of matters (and including "private services")
need to be examined through a public interest lens.

 

I remain unconvinced that there is need of a global CIRP-like body.

 

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel 

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