[governance] All power should be in the hands of the engineers? (was Re: HLLM in LOndon - CS reps)

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

McTim [10/12/13 17:50 -0500]:
>>(orders/advises) in his mouth, it is difficult to imagine that he did
>>it from his own initiative.
>
>Now that is outrageous.  Why would you make such an uninformed
>accusation?  You have zero basis for such a claim!

+1

>> All what he said is shocking to any honest participant to the IG debate.

Meaning of course that Alejandro is dishonest, Jean Pierre? That is a
disgusting thing to say, and besides, it is completely wrong.

I say this to civil society on this list.

You have among you people that work entirely at cross purposes with your
broader interests.

Who side with governments in blatantly un multistakeholder proposals

Who are focused more on committee seats and political maneuvring than
actual engagement or constructive work. [why, power for power's sake, a
steak holding as opposed to legitimate stakeholderism that is exepcted to
contribute constructively and engage with other stakeholders?]

Who frequently claim on this list and at conferences to speak for civil
society as a whole, or "for the global south", or for a particular country
as a whole. [Which is striking from the text in that Indian government
official's note about ICANN .. who elected those individuals to speak for
civil society?)

[and more]

If you allow your agenda here to be driven by them, or if you elect them to
actually represent you at key events, the caucus will remain mired in
politics and argument, and there is no hope of doing any constructive work,
of constructively engaging with any other stakeholder.

Repudiate them, and dissociate yourself from them, or they will be your
collective undoing.

	srs

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