[governance] All power should be in the hands of the engineers? (was Re: HLLM in LOndon - CS reps)

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Tue Dec 10 06:47:23 EST 2013


A network? Surely the people who own it and operate it should have a say

Else for multistakeholder processes find stakeholders rather than steak holders who are insistent on a stake just because, rather than because they can contribute meaningfully 

--srs (iPad)

> On 10-Dec-2013, at 16:50, Dominique Lacroix <dominique.lacroix at ies-france.eu> wrote:
> 
> It's not a question of persons. But only on a philosophical principle.
> To whom must be given the final decision in networks great matters? 
> To representative people elected by the whole population? Or to coopted engineers?
> 
> @+, best, Dom
> 
> Le 10/12/13 11:58, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
>> If the technical community were mindless robots rather than active and valued participants in civil society... 
>> 
>> --srs (htc one x)
>> 
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Dominique Lacroix" <dl at panamo.eu>
>> To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>> Subject: [governance] All power should be in the hands of the engineers? (was Re: HLLM in LOndon - CS reps)
>> Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 4:21 PM
>> 
>> Rule Nr 2: /A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings/.
>> 
>> @+, best, Dom
>> 
>> 
>> Le 10/12/13 11:43, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
>>> Yes. Norbert said civil society should participate. My question was who from civil society can effectively and productively participate. 
>>> 
>>> --srs (htc one x)
>>> 
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Jean-Christophe Nothias" <jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com>
>>> To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
>>> Cc: "Norbert Bollow" <nb at bollow.ch>
>>> Subject: [governance] All power should be in the hands of the engineers? (was Re: HLLM in LOndon - CS reps)
>>> Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 3:44 PM
>>> 
>>> Hi Suresh,
>>> 
>>> Sorry about that, but what do you mean? Can you elaborate a little bit? Was it humor, irony? Maybe you have a concrete idea for following up on Norbert's view - which I entirely agree with.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for being a bit more explicit.
>>> 
>>> JC
>>> 
>>> [...]
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