<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>A network? Surely the people who own it and operate it should have a say</div><div><br></div><div>Else for multistakeholder processes find stakeholders rather than steak holders who are insistent on a stake just because, rather than because they can contribute meaningfully </div><div><br></div><div>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 10-Dec-2013, at 16:50, Dominique Lacroix <<a href="mailto:dominique.lacroix@ies-france.eu">dominique.lacroix@ies-france.eu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It's not a question of persons. But
only on a philosophical principle.<br>
To whom must be given the final decision in networks great
matters? <br>
To representative people elected by the whole population? Or to
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@+, best, Dom<br>
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Le 10/12/13 11:58, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :<br>
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<pre wrap="">If the technical community were mindless robots rather than active and valued participants in civil society...
--srs (htc one x)
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Subject: [governance] All power should be in the hands of the engineers? (was Re: HLLM in LOndon - CS reps)
Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 4:21 PM
Rule Nr 2: /A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings/.
@+, best, Dom
Le 10/12/13 11:43, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
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<pre wrap="">Yes. Norbert said civil society should participate. My question was who from civil society can effectively and productively participate.
--srs (htc one x)
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Subject: [governance] All power should be in the hands of the engineers? (was Re: HLLM in LOndon - CS reps)
Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 3:44 PM
Hi Suresh,
Sorry about that, but what do you mean? Can you elaborate a little bit? Was it humor, irony? Maybe you have a concrete idea for following up on Norbert's view - which I entirely agree with.
Thanks for being a bit more explicit.
JC
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