[governance] Fwd: [At-Large] The Internet as we know it is dead

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Yes but there is generally no specific law drafted to regulate peering 

Standard contract laws do apply of course and any content hosted in a country would be subject to that country's laws. 

--srs (htc one x) 

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Subject: [governance] Fwd: [At-Large] The Internet as we know it is dead
Date: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 6:12 PM


Arent those business agreements subject to specific jurisdictions? Are those business entities and ISP completely free from any state law? Shouldnt they be at least incorporated according to specific bodies of regulation? If so, it is really hard to envision from a practical perspective the idea of denationalization. No matter how transnational the activities are.

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Em 31/08/2013, às 08:55, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> escreveu:

> Governance of internet routing depends on business agreements between ISPs
> 
> Only rarely is it mandated by law to keep local traffic local - china and some other countries do it, either for filtering / lawful intercept / prevention of foreign lawful intercept, or to force ISPs to save itnernational bandwidth when a dominant player in the industry doesnt want to peer.
> 
> So there's no politics here beyond the usual backbiting - and the rest is as mctim says.
> 
> --srs (iPad)
> 
> On 31-Aug-2013, at 17:10, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 5:37 AM, JFC Morfin <jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> 
>>>> Governance of Internet routing is largely denationalized now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From reading you (I am not a specialist of lower layers) I understood it was
>>> "internationalized", the world being used to mean "US coordinated
>>> international cooperation" as per Zbigniew Brzezin'ski?
>> 
>> The USG has zero control over routing of non USG networks.  In other
>> words, networks control their own routing.  the USG has nothing to do
>> with routing them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>> 
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