[governance] Question about inappropriate behavior was RE: [] US House Bill ...

[Riaz K Tayob]

Thank you for this. A few queries to explore this.

Why is an interpretation or narrative to a given perspective "unfounded"?

In the realm of social sciences, as opposed to hard/natural sciences, a 
narrative or interpretation is the best we can offer as reality is complex.

If your statement is that the point about "unfounded public accusations" 
does not have empirical grounding, something that could be established 
with certainty.

And this is also valid, but is also just an interpretation, from a 
worldview that says the facts don't support your point.

If as I read Parminder, one of many critical Third World views, he 
starts of from a particular history or evolution, that gives credence to 
his worldview (his worldview is a simplification of reality, just as 
your critique of his is). Now whether you like or dislike or agree or 
disagree with his approach, idealogy, interpretation is very different 
from an 'unfounded allegation' on what is essentially a narrative of a 
complex social reality. Not to speak for him, but what points in 
Parminder's favour is that even without his worldview, in some 
meaningful order, other groups have a similar diagnosis (like PK), but 
may well disagree and/or agree on prescritions.

My focus on method here is to identify ways of engagement that let us 
identify differences, sometimes at first principles levels which seems 
to be the case in this exchange.

If I have been less than civil in this interjection, I rely on you to 
point it out.

Riaz

On 2013/04/14 03:31 PM, McTim wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>> [with IGC coordinator hat on]
>>
>> Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:
>>> Does this statement, which [...]
>>> the kind of thing the coordinators look for when deciding to start
>>> the netiquette warning process?
>> I'd like to quite generally discourage public discussion of whether
>> some particular statement violates the posting rules or not. If some
>> remark has the effect of increasing the degree to which the IGC is a
>> hostile environment, then quoting the statement and criticizing it
>> will increase that effect.
> I'd like to quite generally discourage unfounded public accusations of the type:
>
> "How the term 'government control' has been deviously used to further
> entrench hegemonies, and a neoliberal paradigm. "
>
> Until the co-cos help with that, I will continue to ask questions.
> You are being asked to carry out your role, not censor victims of
> abuse!
>
>


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