[governance] Question about inappropriate behavior was RE: [] US House Bill ...

[McTim]

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for this. A few queries to explore this.
>
> Why is an interpretation or narrative to a given perspective "unfounded"?


un·found·ed
/ˌənˈfoundid/
Adjective
Having no foundation or basis in fact: "her persistent fear that she
had cancer was unfounded".
Synonyms
groundless - baseless - ungrounded - causeless

>
> In the realm of social sciences, as opposed to hard/natural sciences, a
> narrative or interpretation is the best we can offer as reality is complex.


Evidence based decision making can also apply to social sciences.

>
> If your statement is that the point about "unfounded public accusations"
> does not have empirical grounding, something that could be established with
> certainty.
>
> And this is also valid, but is also just an interpretation, from a worldview
> that says the facts don't support your point.
>
> If as I read Parminder, one of many critical Third World views, he starts of
> from a particular history or evolution, that gives credence to his worldview
> (his worldview is a simplification of reality, just as your critique of his
> is). Now whether you like or dislike or agree or disagree with his approach,
> idealogy, interpretation is very different from an 'unfounded allegation' on
> what is essentially a narrative of a complex social reality. Not to speak
> for him, but what points in Parminder's favour is that even without his
> worldview, in some meaningful order, other groups have a similar diagnosis
> (like PK)


Are you suggesting the PK is in support of a vast global conspiracy
theory that US CS is a stooge?
If so, I think you are misreading PJS.


, but may well disagree and/or agree on prescritions.
>
> My focus on method here is to identify ways of engagement that let us
> identify differences, sometimes at first principles levels which seems to be
> the case in this exchange.

This thread, as started by Avri, is about what are the criteria used
by the co-cos in evaluating
speech.

I for one would like to know what they are.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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