[governance] Big Porn v. Big Web Ruling Could Spell Trouble for ICANN / was Re: new gTLDs

[Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond]

+1
It's all about maturity. Can a multi-stakeholder system become mature
enough to *not* require a top-down oversight body? I'd like to believe that.

Kindest regards,

Olivier
(my own views)


On 12/09/2012 00:32, Ian Peter wrote:
> Glad to see these comments by Lee and Avri.  Here is my original proposition
>
> I come back to my original position ­ and perhaps the only one where we
> might get some agreement and also even the possibility of some action. The
> authorisation role is completely unnecessary, whether carried out by USA or
> UN or whatever. Please do not transfer it to another body ­ just remove it.
> The authorisation is based on recommendations involving a set of very
> consultative and exhaustive procedures. Once the ICANN processes recommend a
> change after these consultations, let that be the final authorisation.
>
>
> I can perceive a situation where USA might actually accept that proposition,
> consistent with increasing independence of ICANN.  I cant see a situation
> where they transfer their authorisation function to any other body.
>
>
> Ian Peter
>
>
>> From: Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>
>> Reply-To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>
>> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:28:28 -0400
>> To: IGC <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Big Porn v. Big Web Ruling Could Spell Trouble for
>> ICANN / was Re: new gTLDs
>>
>>
>> On 11 Sep 2012, at 17:33, Lee W McKnight wrote:
>>
>>> 1) Free ICANN from hypothetical future USDOC/NTIA interference as Ian Peter
>>> suggested. Which would also free ICANN from any other government mucking
>>> around at that level, in a hypothetical future. Fine by me. Though I worry
>>> ever so slightly that the latest example of ICANN's immaturity (oh yeah we
>>> forgot to put in place a conflict of interest policy for folks about to
>>> launch a new ICANN-created market)  is not the last example of ICANN proving
>>> in practice to be not really as grown up as ICANN, like most 14 year olds,
>>> claims it is.  Still, the proud parent USG will be more inclined to want to
>>> let the organization grow up and graduate from needing a babysitter, than
>>> accept other's suggestions that they would be better parents. Still we can
>>> imagine...
>>
>> This is basically the option I opt for.
>>
>> First work to get ICANN to grow up and deserve to move out of the house.
>>
>> Then convince the parents and all the aunts and uncles that it is time for
>> ICANN to move out on the NTIA house because they are gown-up and have a viable
>> life plan.
>>
>> I bet that if this state is reached, NTIA would even help.  Just a guess, but
>> I'd bet.  
>>
>> But first we ICANN folks (Staff, Board and Volunteers) gotta get a shit
>> together and grow up.
>> And start working on its life plan.
>>
>> I think progress is being made, but is it as good as we would like of course
>> not.  
>> More time and participation is needed.
>>
>> I beleive it can happen.
>> In fact I expect that it eventually will.
>> I just have no idea how long eventually will take.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>>
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