[governance] Big Porn v. Big Web Ruling Could Spell Trouble for ICANN / was Re: new gTLDs

[Ian Peter]

Glad to see these comments by Lee and Avri.  Here is my original proposition

I come back to my original position ­ and perhaps the only one where we
might get some agreement and also even the possibility of some action. The
authorisation role is completely unnecessary, whether carried out by USA or
UN or whatever. Please do not transfer it to another body ­ just remove it.
The authorisation is based on recommendations involving a set of very
consultative and exhaustive procedures. Once the ICANN processes recommend a
change after these consultations, let that be the final authorisation.


I can perceive a situation where USA might actually accept that proposition,
consistent with increasing independence of ICANN.  I cant see a situation
where they transfer their authorisation function to any other body.


Ian Peter


> From: Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>
> Reply-To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com>
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:28:28 -0400
> To: IGC <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Big Porn v. Big Web Ruling Could Spell Trouble for
> ICANN / was Re: new gTLDs
> 
> 
> On 11 Sep 2012, at 17:33, Lee W McKnight wrote:
> 
>> 1) Free ICANN from hypothetical future USDOC/NTIA interference as Ian Peter
>> suggested. Which would also free ICANN from any other government mucking
>> around at that level, in a hypothetical future. Fine by me. Though I worry
>> ever so slightly that the latest example of ICANN's immaturity (oh yeah we
>> forgot to put in place a conflict of interest policy for folks about to
>> launch a new ICANN-created market)  is not the last example of ICANN proving
>> in practice to be not really as grown up as ICANN, like most 14 year olds,
>> claims it is.  Still, the proud parent USG will be more inclined to want to
>> let the organization grow up and graduate from needing a babysitter, than
>> accept other's suggestions that they would be better parents. Still we can
>> imagine...
> 
> 
> This is basically the option I opt for.
> 
> First work to get ICANN to grow up and deserve to move out of the house.
> 
> Then convince the parents and all the aunts and uncles that it is time for
> ICANN to move out on the NTIA house because they are gown-up and have a viable
> life plan.
> 
> I bet that if this state is reached, NTIA would even help.  Just a guess, but
> I'd bet.  
> 
> But first we ICANN folks (Staff, Board and Volunteers) gotta get a shit
> together and grow up.
> And start working on its life plan.
> 
> I think progress is being made, but is it as good as we would like of course
> not.  
> More time and participation is needed.
> 
> I beleive it can happen.
> In fact I expect that it eventually will.
> I just have no idea how long eventually will take.
> 
> avri
> 
> 
> 
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