[governance] CS Speakers for Baku

Carlos A. Afonso ca at cafonso.ca
Wed Oct 31 20:54:01 EDT 2012 

To be honest, this discussion started in this list several weeks ago, Robert. What is your proposal?

--c.a.

Carlos A. AfonsoRobert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org> escreveu:To be honest, in my opinion, the process to select speakers for the main opening session has seemed ad-hoc at best.

Would have expected a far more deliberate process along the lines that the caucus reviews, recommends and nominates persons for the MAG.

Robert
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On 2012-10-31, at 6:09 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> ... Still, I'm not sure I understand the process that got us
> nominating people and end up with a name that was never mentioned here
> (this is nothing personal). Were there other CS groups that had been
> running the same nomination process? Is this at the discretion of the
> Secretariat? And what happens now to the idea of collectively prepared
> discourse or talking points, and to Milton's good start on that?
> 
> Just asking.
> 
> mawaki
> 
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Nnenna <nne75 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think Carlos and Valentina make a great pair.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> N
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
>> To: william.drake at uzh.ch; glaser at cgi.br
>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carlos A. Afonso
>> 
>> William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> escreveu:
>> My apologies to Carlos, I cut and paste from someone else's email
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Correct name is => Carlos Alberto Afonso ...
>> 
>> ==========================================
>> On 31/10/12 17:04, William Drake wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> The secretariat has invited Carlos Alfonso for the opening session and
>> Valentina Pellizzer for the closing session.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>> 
>> Dear list,
>> 
>> Sorry for not following this up earlier. Just too many things to do.
>> 
>> Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de facto
>> speaker,
>> and Nnnena seems to have received good support and fulfills the gender
>> balance
>> and also from developing region.
>> 
>> And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the talking
>> points
>> into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own words to be
>> added.
>> 
>> May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> izumi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/10/11 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:
>> 
>> it's what they're sending registrants
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:
>> 
>> What? When did this happen?
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>> 
>> In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly
>> disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we have
>> speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality of personal
>> privacy protection in Internet governance.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:
>> 
>> +1 On each of the points below.  I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire
>> Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited.  However, I
>> would like to see a line that extends "Multistakeholderism" down to active
>> national participation of all stakeholders. AFAIK, in as much as in some
>> countries, the government is weighing in, in ways that may appear
>> overbearing, in others, the decision-makers are actually note interested or
>> think it is an NGO thing.
>> 
>> Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that
>> "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Nnenna
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
>> To: 'Ginger Paque' <ginger at paque.net>; "governance at lists.igcaucus.org"
>> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>> 
>> 
>> From: gpaque at gmail.com [mailto:gpaque at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ginger Paque
>> 
>> I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition to' not
>> 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as significant as
>> their words, and we tend to know their general positions as well as speaking
>> abilities when we nominate them.
>> 
>> Ginger and colleagues:
>> Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has there
>> been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they say is more
>> important than who we choose, but agree that in some cases "the medium is
>> the message."  At any rate we are long on "who" and rather short on "what"
>> at the moment, so…
>> 
>> let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately
>> believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to address
>> them in a way that takes into account the differences among us and hope
>> others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics would include IPR,
>> development…I defer to others there.
>> 
>> Human rights
>> CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global
>> communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of Article 19 of
>> the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free flow of
>> information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual human right to
>> freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to create "national
>> Internets," or to block and filter internet access in ways that deny
>> individuals access to applications, content and services of their choice.
>> All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information illegal
>> and remove them must follow established, transparent processes of law and
>> should not involve prior restraint.
>> 
>> Security and Securitization
>> CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that would
>> foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among governments and/or
>> private actors. We consider the surreptitious use of exploits and malware
>> for surveillance or attacks to be criminal regardless of whether they are
>> deployed by governments, private corporations or organized criminals. We are
>> skeptical of efforts to subordinate the design and use of information and
>> communication technology to "national security" agendas. We believe that
>> Internet security will be achieved primarily at the operational level and
>> that national security and military agendas often work against rather than
>> for users' security needs.
>> 
>> Multistakeholderism
>> Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states, so CS
>> welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that
>> multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that multi-stakeholder
>> participation is not an end in itself.  Opening up global governance
>> institutions to additional voices from civil society and business does not
>> by itself ensure that individual rights are adequately protected or that the
>> best substantive policies are developed and enforced. In the informal spaces
>> created by MS institutions, it is possible that powerful governmental and
>> corporate actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet users.
>> MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due process,
>> separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and political rights.
>> 
>> Milton L. Mueller
>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>> Internet Governance Project
>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org
>> 
>> 
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