[governance] Indian Express on privacy

[Fahd A. Batayneh]

Think so? ;-)

Fahd
On Nov 24, 2012 5:12 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:

> Or equally it could be a cia plot to snoop on the citizens of that
> country?  ;-)
>
> --srs (htc one x)
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
> To: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
> Cc: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Subject: [governance] Indian Express on privacy
> Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 7:29 PM
>
>
> Or maybe one's government does not understand the pros of having an IXP and
> the necessity of working with the various local Internet stakeholders.
>
> Fahd
> On Nov 24, 2012 4:30 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Even if your traffic does pass through a western country it would be
> > because the destination is there unless your isp is unwise enough not to
> > peer with other local isps
> >
> > --srs (htc one x)
> >
> >
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
> > To: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "IG Caucus" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> > Subject: [governance] Indian Express on privacy
> > Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 6:41 PM
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <
> > fahd.batayneh at gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> While I do have Facebook and Twitter accounts, I have not accessed any
> > of
> > >> them for quite a long time, and I do not use them. This is what one
> can
> > >> expect when posting personal data online. However, if we look at
> things
> > >> differently, who is not exposed (Internet users)? All our Internet
> > traffic
> > >> passes through the various Tier-1 ISPs in the USA and EU
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > ALL, is a pretty strong statement.
> > >
> >
> > Well, we can exclude local traffic passing via IXPs or maybe within the
> > same network, and maybe very sensitive data that move across the same
> > Intranet, or maybe traffic that moves within censorship-driven countries.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Do you have any evidence for it?
> > >
> >
> > No one has evidence about either scenario (everything is monitored vs.
> > something is monitored vs. nothing is monitored). But would you disagree
> > that Internet traffic moving overseas does have to pass at access points
> > based in Western countries?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > , and some of them might want to inspect traffic randomly as measures
> of
> > >> "National Security".
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > None of them "want to", as it would impact business of passing packets.
> > >
> >
> > Not really. Business is one aspect of the story, but national interests
> is
> > another (especially Western countries that keep using the term "War on
> > Terror").
> >
> > Fahd
> >
>
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