[governance] Indian Express on privacy

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Sat Nov 24 09:11:58 EST 2012


Or equally it could be a cia plot to snoop on the citizens of that country?  ;-) 

--srs (htc one x)


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From: "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
To: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
Cc: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
Subject: [governance] Indian Express on privacy
Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 7:29 PM


Or maybe one's government does not understand the pros of having an IXP and
the necessity of working with the various local Internet stakeholders.

Fahd
On Nov 24, 2012 4:30 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:

> Even if your traffic does pass through a western country it would be
> because the destination is there unless your isp is unwise enough not to
> peer with other local isps
>
> --srs (htc one x)
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
> To: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> Cc: "IG Caucus" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Subject: [governance] Indian Express on privacy
> Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 6:41 PM
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <
> fahd.batayneh at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> While I do have Facebook and Twitter accounts, I have not accessed any
> of
> >> them for quite a long time, and I do not use them. This is what one can
> >> expect when posting personal data online. However, if we look at things
> >> differently, who is not exposed (Internet users)? All our Internet
> traffic
> >> passes through the various Tier-1 ISPs in the USA and EU
> >>
> >
> >
> > ALL, is a pretty strong statement.
> >
>
> Well, we can exclude local traffic passing via IXPs or maybe within the
> same network, and maybe very sensitive data that move across the same
> Intranet, or maybe traffic that moves within censorship-driven countries.
>
>
> >
> > Do you have any evidence for it?
> >
>
> No one has evidence about either scenario (everything is monitored vs.
> something is monitored vs. nothing is monitored). But would you disagree
> that Internet traffic moving overseas does have to pass at access points
> based in Western countries?
>
>
> >
> > , and some of them might want to inspect traffic randomly as measures of
> >> "National Security".
> >>
> >
> >
> > None of them "want to", as it would impact business of passing packets.
> >
>
> Not really. Business is one aspect of the story, but national interests is
> another (especially Western countries that keep using the term "War on
> Terror").
>
> Fahd
>
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