[governance] Indian Express on privacy

Fahd A. Batayneh fahd.batayneh at gmail.com
Sat Nov 24 08:59:11 EST 2012


Or maybe one's government does not understand the pros of having an IXP and
the necessity of working with the various local Internet stakeholders.

Fahd
On Nov 24, 2012 4:30 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:

> Even if your traffic does pass through a western country it would be
> because the destination is there unless your isp is unwise enough not to
> peer with other local isps
>
> --srs (htc one x)
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
> To: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> Cc: "IG Caucus" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Subject: [governance] Indian Express on privacy
> Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 6:41 PM
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <
> fahd.batayneh at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> While I do have Facebook and Twitter accounts, I have not accessed any
> of
> >> them for quite a long time, and I do not use them. This is what one can
> >> expect when posting personal data online. However, if we look at things
> >> differently, who is not exposed (Internet users)? All our Internet
> traffic
> >> passes through the various Tier-1 ISPs in the USA and EU
> >>
> >
> >
> > ALL, is a pretty strong statement.
> >
>
> Well, we can exclude local traffic passing via IXPs or maybe within the
> same network, and maybe very sensitive data that move across the same
> Intranet, or maybe traffic that moves within censorship-driven countries.
>
>
> >
> > Do you have any evidence for it?
> >
>
> No one has evidence about either scenario (everything is monitored vs.
> something is monitored vs. nothing is monitored). But would you disagree
> that Internet traffic moving overseas does have to pass at access points
> based in Western countries?
>
>
> >
> > , and some of them might want to inspect traffic randomly as measures of
> >> "National Security".
> >>
> >
> >
> > None of them "want to", as it would impact business of passing packets.
> >
>
> Not really. Business is one aspect of the story, but national interests is
> another (especially Western countries that keep using the term "War on
> Terror").
>
> Fahd
>
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