[governance] CS Speakers for Baku
Kabani
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Thu Nov 1 14:04:46 EDT 2012
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On 1 November 2012 13:09, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd at gmail.com>wrote:
> Izumi had broadcast her request here - a fair few people responded saying
> Carlos was a good choice. -
>
> ------
> ref:
> Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=1311182>
> lists.igcaucus.org
> Oct 2
> to governance
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> Dear list,
>
> We need to select Civil Society speakers for the Baku Main session,
> I think one for the opening and another for the closing session.
>
> Please send your suggestions and nominations asap.
>
> izumi
>
>
> -------
> People who responded positively for Carlos include
> Hartmut Richard Glaser
> Graciela Selaimen
> Graciela Selaimen
> Deirdre Williams
> Valeria Betancourt
> Valeria Betancourt
> Ginger Paque
>
> -C
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>wrote:
>
>> Let's be clear, I don't have an issue with the people that were
>> selected. Just the process, or lack of one, that was used.
>>
>> Suggest we focus on a way to develop a far more transparent and in
>> dependant process next time
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
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>>
>> On 2012-10-31, at 9:30 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>>
>> > It is in part my fault for not wrapping up the discussion quickly, to
>> > select the speakers
>> > and liaise to the Secretariat. So sorry about this delay.
>> >
>> > I guess IGF Secretariat chose one from IGC members and another one from
>> non-IGC.
>> >
>> > They had indicated that the speaker does not have to be IGC member per
>> se.
>> >
>> > IGC is not the sole representative of the Civil Society for IGF.
>> >
>> > Yet I believe Valentina will also be an excellent speaker, especially
>> from
>> > Central/East Europe.
>> >
>> >
>> > izumi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/11/1 shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>:
>> >> me too :)
>> >>
>> >> The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !
>> >> ..................... the renaissance of composure !
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Robert Guerra <
>> rguerra at privaterra.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>> >>
>> >> yes it took me by surprise as well Mawaki. :O
>> >>
>> >> Sala
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To be honest, in my opinion, the process to select speakers for the
>> main
>> >> opening session has seemed ad-hoc at best.
>> >>
>> >> Would have expected a far more deliberate process along the lines that
>> the
>> >> caucus reviews, recommends and nominates persons for the MAG.
>> >>
>> >> Robert
>> >> --
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>> >>
>> >> On 2012-10-31, at 6:09 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> ... Still, I'm not sure I understand the process that got us
>> >>> nominating people and end up with a name that was never mentioned here
>> >>> (this is nothing personal). Were there other CS groups that had been
>> >>> running the same nomination process? Is this at the discretion of the
>> >>> Secretariat? And what happens now to the idea of collectively prepared
>> >>> discourse or talking points, and to Milton's good start on that?
>> >>>
>> >>> Just asking.
>> >>>
>> >>> mawaki
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Nnenna <nne75 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think Carlos and Valentina make a great pair.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers
>> >>>>
>> >>>> N
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, NNENNA.ORG | Consultants
>> >>>> Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for
>> Development
>> >>>> Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471 |Mob. 07416820
>> >>>> Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065|
>> http://www.nnenna.org
>> >>>> nnenna at nnenna.org| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 |
>> nnennaorg.blogspot.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ________________________________
>> >>>> From: Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
>> >>>> To: william.drake at uzh.ch; glaser at cgi.br
>> >>>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>> >>>>
>> >>>> :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Carlos A. Afonso
>> >>>>
>> >>>> William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> escreveu:
>> >>>> My apologies to Carlos, I cut and paste from someone else's email
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Correct name is => Carlos Alberto Afonso ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ==========================================
>> >>>> On 31/10/12 17:04, William Drake wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The secretariat has invited Carlos Alfonso for the opening session
>> and
>> >>>> Valentina Pellizzer for the closing session.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bill
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear list,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sorry for not following this up earlier. Just too many things to do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de
>> facto
>> >>>> speaker,
>> >>>> and Nnnena seems to have received good support and fulfills the
>> gender
>> >>>> balance
>> >>>> and also from developing region.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the
>> talking
>> >>>> points
>> >>>> into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own words to
>> be
>> >>>> added.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Many thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> izumi
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2012/10/11 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> it's what they're sending registrants
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What? When did this happen?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly
>> >>>> disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we
>> have
>> >>>> speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality of
>> >>>> personal
>> >>>> privacy protection in Internet governance.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bill
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> +1 On each of the points below. I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire
>> >>>> Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited.
>> However,
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> would like to see a line that extends "Multistakeholderism" down to
>> >>>> active
>> >>>> national participation of all stakeholders. AFAIK, in as much as in
>> some
>> >>>> countries, the government is weighing in, in ways that may appear
>> >>>> overbearing, in others, the decision-makers are actually note
>> interested
>> >>>> or
>> >>>> think it is an NGO thing.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that
>> >>>> "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nnenna
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, NNENNA.ORG
>> >>>> | Consultants
>> >>>> Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for
>> Development
>> >>>> Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471 |Mob. 07416820
>> >>>> Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065|
>> http://www.nnenna.org/
>> >>>> nnenna at nnenna.org| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 |
>> nnennaorg.blogspot.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ________________________________
>> >>>> From: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
>> >>>> To: 'Ginger Paque' <ginger at paque.net>; "
>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org"
>> >>>> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM
>> >>>> Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From: gpaque at gmail.com [mailto:gpaque at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ginger
>> >>>> Paque
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition
>> to'
>> >>>> not
>> >>>> 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as
>> significant
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> their words, and we tend to know their general positions as well as
>> >>>> speaking
>> >>>> abilities when we nominate them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ginger and colleagues:
>> >>>> Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has
>> there
>> >>>> been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they say is
>> >>>> more
>> >>>> important than who we choose, but agree that in some cases "the
>> medium is
>> >>>> the message." At any rate we are long on "who" and rather short on
>> >>>> "what"
>> >>>> at the moment, so…
>> >>>>
>> >>>> let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately
>> >>>> believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to
>> >>>> address
>> >>>> them in a way that takes into account the differences among us and
>> hope
>> >>>> others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics would include
>> >>>> IPR,
>> >>>> development…I defer to others there.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Human rights
>> >>>> CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global
>> >>>> communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of
>> Article 19
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free flow of
>> >>>> information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual human right
>> to
>> >>>> freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to create
>> "national
>> >>>> Internets," or to block and filter internet access in ways that deny
>> >>>> individuals access to applications, content and services of their
>> choice.
>> >>>> All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information
>> >>>> illegal
>> >>>> and remove them must follow established, transparent processes of
>> law and
>> >>>> should not involve prior restraint.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Security and Securitization
>> >>>> CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that
>> would
>> >>>> foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among governments
>> >>>> and/or
>> >>>> private actors. We consider the surreptitious use of exploits and
>> malware
>> >>>> for surveillance or attacks to be criminal regardless of whether
>> they are
>> >>>> deployed by governments, private corporations or organized
>> criminals. We
>> >>>> are
>> >>>> skeptical of efforts to subordinate the design and use of
>> information and
>> >>>> communication technology to "national security" agendas. We believe
>> that
>> >>>> Internet security will be achieved primarily at the operational
>> level and
>> >>>> that national security and military agendas often work against rather
>> >>>> than
>> >>>> for users' security needs.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Multistakeholderism
>> >>>> Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states,
>> so CS
>> >>>> welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that
>> >>>> multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that
>> >>>> multi-stakeholder
>> >>>> participation is not an end in itself. Opening up global governance
>> >>>> institutions to additional voices from civil society and business
>> does
>> >>>> not
>> >>>> by itself ensure that individual rights are adequately protected or
>> that
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> best substantive policies are developed and enforced. In the informal
>> >>>> spaces
>> >>>> created by MS institutions, it is possible that powerful
>> governmental and
>> >>>> corporate actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet
>> >>>> users.
>> >>>> MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due
>> >>>> process,
>> >>>> separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and political
>> rights.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Milton L. Mueller
>> >>>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>> >>>> Internet Governance Project
>> >>>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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