[governance] CS Speakers for Baku
Chaitanya Dhareshwar
chaitanyabd at gmail.com
Thu Nov 1 04:09:29 EDT 2012
Izumi had broadcast her request here - a fair few people responded saying
Carlos was a good choice. -
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Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org
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Oct 2
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Dear list,
We need to select Civil Society speakers for the Baku Main session,
I think one for the opening and another for the closing session.
Please send your suggestions and nominations asap.
izumi
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People who responded positively for Carlos include
Hartmut Richard Glaser
Graciela Selaimen
Graciela Selaimen
Deirdre Williams
Valeria Betancourt
Valeria Betancourt
Ginger Paque
-C
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>wrote:
> Let's be clear, I don't have an issue with the people that were selected.
> Just the process, or lack of one, that was used.
>
> Suggest we focus on a way to develop a far more transparent and in
> dependant process next time
>
> Robert
>
>
> --
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>
> On 2012-10-31, at 9:30 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>
> > It is in part my fault for not wrapping up the discussion quickly, to
> > select the speakers
> > and liaise to the Secretariat. So sorry about this delay.
> >
> > I guess IGF Secretariat chose one from IGC members and another one from
> non-IGC.
> >
> > They had indicated that the speaker does not have to be IGC member per
> se.
> >
> > IGC is not the sole representative of the Civil Society for IGF.
> >
> > Yet I believe Valentina will also be an excellent speaker, especially
> from
> > Central/East Europe.
> >
> >
> > izumi
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/11/1 shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>:
> >> me too :)
> >>
> >> The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !
> >> ..................... the renaissance of composure !
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Robert Guerra <
> rguerra at privaterra.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
> >>
> >> yes it took me by surprise as well Mawaki. :O
> >>
> >> Sala
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> To be honest, in my opinion, the process to select speakers for the main
> >> opening session has seemed ad-hoc at best.
> >>
> >> Would have expected a far more deliberate process along the lines that
> the
> >> caucus reviews, recommends and nominates persons for the MAG.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >> --
> >> R. Guerra
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> >>
> >> On 2012-10-31, at 6:09 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> ... Still, I'm not sure I understand the process that got us
> >>> nominating people and end up with a name that was never mentioned here
> >>> (this is nothing personal). Were there other CS groups that had been
> >>> running the same nomination process? Is this at the discretion of the
> >>> Secretariat? And what happens now to the idea of collectively prepared
> >>> discourse or talking points, and to Milton's good start on that?
> >>>
> >>> Just asking.
> >>>
> >>> mawaki
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Nnenna <nne75 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think Carlos and Valentina make a great pair.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>> N
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, NNENNA.ORG | Consultants
> >>>> Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for Development
> >>>> Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471 |Mob. 07416820
> >>>> Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065|
> http://www.nnenna.org
> >>>> nnenna at nnenna.org| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 |
> nnennaorg.blogspot.com
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
> >>>> To: william.drake at uzh.ch; glaser at cgi.br
> >>>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
> >>>>
> >>>> :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Carlos A. Afonso
> >>>>
> >>>> William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> escreveu:
> >>>> My apologies to Carlos, I cut and paste from someone else's email
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Correct name is => Carlos Alberto Afonso ...
> >>>>
> >>>> ==========================================
> >>>> On 31/10/12 17:04, William Drake wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> The secretariat has invited Carlos Alfonso for the opening session and
> >>>> Valentina Pellizzer for the closing session.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear list,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry for not following this up earlier. Just too many things to do.
> >>>>
> >>>> Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de
> facto
> >>>> speaker,
> >>>> and Nnnena seems to have received good support and fulfills the gender
> >>>> balance
> >>>> and also from developing region.
> >>>>
> >>>> And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the talking
> >>>> points
> >>>> into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own words to be
> >>>> added.
> >>>>
> >>>> May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> izumi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/10/11 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:
> >>>>
> >>>> it's what they're sending registrants
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What? When did this happen?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly
> >>>> disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we have
> >>>> speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality of
> >>>> personal
> >>>> privacy protection in Internet governance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 On each of the points below. I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire
> >>>> Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited.
> However,
> >>>> I
> >>>> would like to see a line that extends "Multistakeholderism" down to
> >>>> active
> >>>> national participation of all stakeholders. AFAIK, in as much as in
> some
> >>>> countries, the government is weighing in, in ways that may appear
> >>>> overbearing, in others, the decision-makers are actually note
> interested
> >>>> or
> >>>> think it is an NGO thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that
> >>>> "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own
> >>>>
> >>>> Best
> >>>>
> >>>> Nnenna
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, NNENNA.ORG
> >>>> | Consultants
> >>>> Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for Development
> >>>> Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471 |Mob. 07416820
> >>>> Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065|
> http://www.nnenna.org/
> >>>> nnenna at nnenna.org| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 |
> nnennaorg.blogspot.com
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> >>>> To: 'Ginger Paque' <ginger at paque.net>; "governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> "
> >>>> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM
> >>>> Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: gpaque at gmail.com [mailto:gpaque at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ginger
> >>>> Paque
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition to'
> >>>> not
> >>>> 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as
> significant
> >>>> as
> >>>> their words, and we tend to know their general positions as well as
> >>>> speaking
> >>>> abilities when we nominate them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ginger and colleagues:
> >>>> Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has
> there
> >>>> been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they say is
> >>>> more
> >>>> important than who we choose, but agree that in some cases "the
> medium is
> >>>> the message." At any rate we are long on "who" and rather short on
> >>>> "what"
> >>>> at the moment, so…
> >>>>
> >>>> let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately
> >>>> believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to
> >>>> address
> >>>> them in a way that takes into account the differences among us and
> hope
> >>>> others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics would include
> >>>> IPR,
> >>>> development…I defer to others there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Human rights
> >>>> CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global
> >>>> communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of Article
> 19
> >>>> of
> >>>> the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free flow of
> >>>> information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual human right
> to
> >>>> freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to create "national
> >>>> Internets," or to block and filter internet access in ways that deny
> >>>> individuals access to applications, content and services of their
> choice.
> >>>> All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information
> >>>> illegal
> >>>> and remove them must follow established, transparent processes of law
> and
> >>>> should not involve prior restraint.
> >>>>
> >>>> Security and Securitization
> >>>> CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that
> would
> >>>> foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among governments
> >>>> and/or
> >>>> private actors. We consider the surreptitious use of exploits and
> malware
> >>>> for surveillance or attacks to be criminal regardless of whether they
> are
> >>>> deployed by governments, private corporations or organized criminals.
> We
> >>>> are
> >>>> skeptical of efforts to subordinate the design and use of information
> and
> >>>> communication technology to "national security" agendas. We believe
> that
> >>>> Internet security will be achieved primarily at the operational level
> and
> >>>> that national security and military agendas often work against rather
> >>>> than
> >>>> for users' security needs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Multistakeholderism
> >>>> Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states, so
> CS
> >>>> welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that
> >>>> multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that
> >>>> multi-stakeholder
> >>>> participation is not an end in itself. Opening up global governance
> >>>> institutions to additional voices from civil society and business does
> >>>> not
> >>>> by itself ensure that individual rights are adequately protected or
> that
> >>>> the
> >>>> best substantive policies are developed and enforced. In the informal
> >>>> spaces
> >>>> created by MS institutions, it is possible that powerful governmental
> and
> >>>> corporate actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet
> >>>> users.
> >>>> MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due
> >>>> process,
> >>>> separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and political
> rights.
> >>>>
> >>>> Milton L. Mueller
> >>>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> >>>> Internet Governance Project
> >>>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
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