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<div>Dear list,<br><br>We need to select Civil Society speakers for the Baku Main session,<br>I think one for the opening and another for the closing session.<br><br>Please send your suggestions and nominations asap.<br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
izumi<br><br></font></span><br>-------</div><div>People who responded positively for Carlos include</div><div>Hartmut Richard Glaser <br>Graciela Selaimen <br>Graciela Selaimen <br>Deirdre Williams <br>Valeria Betancourt <br>
Valeria Betancourt <br>Ginger Paque <br></div><div> </div><div>-C<br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Robert Guerra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" target="_blank">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">Let's be clear, I don't have an issue with the people that were selected. Just the process, or lack of one, that was used.<br>
<br>
Suggest we focus on a way to develop a far more transparent and in dependant process next time<br>
<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
Robert<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
R. Guerra<br>
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</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 2012-10-31, at 9:30 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
<br>
> It is in part my fault for not wrapping up the discussion quickly, to<br>
> select the speakers<br>
> and liaise to the Secretariat. So sorry about this delay.<br>
><br>
> I guess IGF Secretariat chose one from IGC members and another one from non-IGC.<br>
><br>
> They had indicated that the speaker does not have to be IGC member per se.<br>
><br>
> IGC is not the sole representative of the Civil Society for IGF.<br>
><br>
> Yet I believe Valentina will also be an excellent speaker, especially from<br>
> Central/East Europe.<br>
><br>
><br>
> izumi<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2012/11/1 shaila mistry <<a href="mailto:shailam@yahoo.com">shailam@yahoo.com</a>>:<br>
>> me too :)<br>
>><br>
>> The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !<br>
>> ..................... the renaissance of composure !<br>
>><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Robert Guerra <<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku<br>
>><br>
>> yes it took me by surprise as well Mawaki. :O<br>
>><br>
>> Sala<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Robert Guerra <<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> To be honest, in my opinion, the process to select speakers for the main<br>
>> opening session has seemed ad-hoc at best.<br>
>><br>
>> Would have expected a far more deliberate process along the lines that the<br>
>> caucus reviews, recommends and nominates persons for the MAG.<br>
>><br>
>> Robert<br>
>> --<br>
>> R. Guerra<br>
>> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081<br>
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>><br>
>> On 2012-10-31, at 6:09 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>><br>
>>> ... Still, I'm not sure I understand the process that got us<br>
>>> nominating people and end up with a name that was never mentioned here<br>
>>> (this is nothing personal). Were there other CS groups that had been<br>
>>> running the same nomination process? Is this at the discretion of the<br>
>>> Secretariat? And what happens now to the idea of collectively prepared<br>
>>> discourse or talking points, and to Milton's good start on that?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Just asking.<br>
>>><br>
>>> mawaki<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Nnenna <<a href="mailto:nne75@yahoo.com">nne75@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think Carlos and Valentina make a great pair.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Cheers<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> N<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, <a href="http://NNENNA.ORG" target="_blank">NNENNA.ORG</a> | Consultants<br>
>>>> Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for Development<br>
>>>> Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471 |Mob. 07416820<br>
>>>> Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065| <a href="http://www.nnenna.org" target="_blank">http://www.nnenna.org</a><br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:nnenna@nnenna.org">nnenna@nnenna.org</a>| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 | <a href="http://nnennaorg.blogspot.com" target="_blank">nnennaorg.blogspot.com</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>> From: Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>><br>
>>>> To: <a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>; <a href="mailto:glaser@cgi.br">glaser@cgi.br</a><br>
>>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 PM<br>
>>>> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> :)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Carlos A. Afonso<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> escreveu:<br>
>>>> My apologies to Carlos, I cut and paste from someone else's email<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Correct name is => Carlos Alberto Afonso ...<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ==========================================<br>
>>>> On 31/10/12 17:04, William Drake wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The secretariat has invited Carlos Alfonso for the opening session and<br>
>>>> Valentina Pellizzer for the closing session.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Bill<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear list,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sorry for not following this up earlier. Just too many things to do.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de facto<br>
>>>> speaker,<br>
>>>> and Nnnena seems to have received good support and fulfills the gender<br>
>>>> balance<br>
>>>> and also from developing region.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the talking<br>
>>>> points<br>
>>>> into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own words to be<br>
>>>> added.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Many thanks,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> izumi<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2012/10/11 William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> it's what they're sending registrants<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> What? When did this happen?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly<br>
>>>> disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we have<br>
>>>> speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality of<br>
>>>> personal<br>
>>>> privacy protection in Internet governance.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Bill<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> +1 On each of the points below. I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire<br>
>>>> Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited. However,<br>
>>>> I<br>
>>>> would like to see a line that extends "Multistakeholderism" down to<br>
>>>> active<br>
>>>> national participation of all stakeholders. AFAIK, in as much as in some<br>
>>>> countries, the government is weighing in, in ways that may appear<br>
>>>> overbearing, in others, the decision-makers are actually note interested<br>
>>>> or<br>
>>>> think it is an NGO thing.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that<br>
>>>> "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Nnenna<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, <a href="http://NNENNA.ORG" target="_blank">NNENNA.ORG</a><br>
>>>> | Consultants<br>
>>>> Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for Development<br>
>>>> Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471 |Mob. 07416820<br>
>>>> Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065| <a href="http://www.nnenna.org/" target="_blank">http://www.nnenna.org/</a><br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:nnenna@nnenna.org">nnenna@nnenna.org</a>| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 | <a href="http://nnennaorg.blogspot.com" target="_blank">nnennaorg.blogspot.com</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>> From: Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>><br>
>>>> To: 'Ginger Paque' <<a href="mailto:ginger@paque.net">ginger@paque.net</a>>; "<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>"<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>><br>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM<br>
>>>> Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> From: <a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>] On Behalf Of Ginger<br>
>>>> Paque<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition to'<br>
>>>> not<br>
>>>> 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as significant<br>
>>>> as<br>
>>>> their words, and we tend to know their general positions as well as<br>
>>>> speaking<br>
>>>> abilities when we nominate them.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ginger and colleagues:<br>
>>>> Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has there<br>
>>>> been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they say is<br>
>>>> more<br>
>>>> important than who we choose, but agree that in some cases "the medium is<br>
>>>> the message." At any rate we are long on "who" and rather short on<br>
>>>> "what"<br>
>>>> at the moment, so…<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately<br>
>>>> believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to<br>
>>>> address<br>
>>>> them in a way that takes into account the differences among us and hope<br>
>>>> others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics would include<br>
>>>> IPR,<br>
>>>> development…I defer to others there.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Human rights<br>
>>>> CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global<br>
>>>> communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of Article 19<br>
>>>> of<br>
>>>> the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free flow of<br>
>>>> information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual human right to<br>
>>>> freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to create "national<br>
>>>> Internets," or to block and filter internet access in ways that deny<br>
>>>> individuals access to applications, content and services of their choice.<br>
>>>> All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information<br>
>>>> illegal<br>
>>>> and remove them must follow established, transparent processes of law and<br>
>>>> should not involve prior restraint.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Security and Securitization<br>
>>>> CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that would<br>
>>>> foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among governments<br>
>>>> and/or<br>
>>>> private actors. We consider the surreptitious use of exploits and malware<br>
>>>> for surveillance or attacks to be criminal regardless of whether they are<br>
>>>> deployed by governments, private corporations or organized criminals. We<br>
>>>> are<br>
>>>> skeptical of efforts to subordinate the design and use of information and<br>
>>>> communication technology to "national security" agendas. We believe that<br>
>>>> Internet security will be achieved primarily at the operational level and<br>
>>>> that national security and military agendas often work against rather<br>
>>>> than<br>
>>>> for users' security needs.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Multistakeholderism<br>
>>>> Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states, so CS<br>
>>>> welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that<br>
>>>> multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that<br>
>>>> multi-stakeholder<br>
>>>> participation is not an end in itself. Opening up global governance<br>
>>>> institutions to additional voices from civil society and business does<br>
>>>> not<br>
>>>> by itself ensure that individual rights are adequately protected or that<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> best substantive policies are developed and enforced. In the informal<br>
>>>> spaces<br>
>>>> created by MS institutions, it is possible that powerful governmental and<br>
>>>> corporate actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet<br>
>>>> users.<br>
>>>> MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due<br>
>>>> process,<br>
>>>> separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and political rights.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Milton L. Mueller<br>
>>>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies<br>
>>>> Internet Governance Project<br>
>>>> <a href="http://blog.internetgovernance.org" target="_blank">http://blog.internetgovernance.org</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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