[governance] IGF Open Consultation memo, Morning, May 15
Marilia Maciel
mariliamaciel at gmail.com
Tue May 15 11:35:56 EDT 2012
Thanks for the clarification, Izumi. I just felt that the bits and pieces I
could hear in the streaming were very connected with the report.
Sorry for any misunderstanding.
M
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
> Ah, Marilia, don't get me wrong, I mean some of the points will be
> discussed
> in the MAG meeting tomorrow, I am sure. BUT we are sort of mostly tasked
> to discuss about the workshop, and is difficult to broaden the scope.
>
> I might be wrong, so correct me, by other members here.
>
> izumi
>
>
> 2012/5/16 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>:
> > Such a pitty. I believed that there was a commitment from all stakeholder
> > groups that participated on the WG that, as far as possible, the next IGF
> > should incorporate suggestions for improvement. There are points of the
> > report that address several of the aspects that have been mentioned all
> > along this afternoon, such as diversifying participation, criteria for
> > sponsoring speakers, methodology.
> >
> > Hard to understand why it has been ignored.
> > Marília
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> No, not yet. is the simple answer.
> >> CSTD WG Report did not get into the agenda, nor its substance,
> >> it is put into the third day's agenda, somehow.
> >>
> >> izumi
> >>
> >> 2012/5/16 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>:
> >> > Streaming is really crappy for me, so it has been hard to follow.
> >> > But has anyone raised the topic of the specific things that maybe need
> >> > to be
> >> > changed on the methodology in order to be able to reach the "more
> >> > concrete
> >> > policy options" suggested on the CSTD WG? eg. type of "policy
> question",
> >> > need for pre-assigned rapporteurs, role of rapporteurs, thematic
> >> > roudtables
> >> > to bring together outcomes from workshops, format that these outcomes
> >> > should
> >> > be communicated to "other relevant organizations".. If so, what was
> >> > said
> >> > about it?
> >> >
> >> > Marília
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Izumi & all, interesting to know how the proposed (decided?)
> >> >> ministerial meeting was questioned on the grounds of the purpose of
> the
> >> >> IGF as a MSH initiative.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wonder about the role of the so-called "special advisors". Who are
> >> >> they? Are they considered "volunteer staff"? Since there is no
> >> >> replacement for Nitin & Markus (I understand Chengetai is playing
> >> >> Markus's role in the meantime?), who decides on the "special
> advisors"
> >> >> and other staff? I wonder about their role, again recalling this is a
> >> >> MSH initiative.
> >> >>
> >> >> fraternal regards
> >> >>
> >> >> --c.a.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 05/15/2012 10:30 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
> >> >> > The morning meeting ended around 1300, here is my rough memo.
> >> >> > Annotated, as it is Open consultation, but all are very sketchy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > izumi
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > May 15, 2012 11:25 Open Consultation starts
> >> >> >
> >> >> > UNDESA rep –
> >> >> > Opening remarks
> >> >> > over 100 workshops proposed for IGF 2012
> >> >> > greater transparency, more information, contribute for better
> >> >> > governance
> >> >> >
> >> >> > MR Elmir Valizda, Chair of MAG
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Robert Guerra
> >> >> > Citizen Lab
> >> >> > Update for Preparation, logistics, venue and other issues
> >> >> > scarecity of details a problem –
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chengetai
> >> >> > Will have update, yes, just now.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Constance, ISOC
> >> >> > ISCO reception
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Question of participation of indigenes people
> >> >> > rather than access to Internet, they need food, closing, shelters
> >> >> > I need free and active participation from indigenes people
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Azerbaijan host to report:
> >> >> > IGF Nov 6-9
> >> >> > Nov 5 – ministerial meeting
> >> >> > info on Baku/Azerbaijan
> >> >> >
> >> >> > All hotels (90) with reduced corporate rates, without 18% VAT
> >> >> > 46 hotels will be provided with shuttles
> >> >> > 17 hotels – no shuttles
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Izumi read Judy’s comment:
> >> >> > Physical Accessibility
> >> >> > it is imperative that all locations/ venue , transport,etc is
> >> >> > accessible and usable for PWD .
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mervi, Finland
> >> >> > Question on Ministerial Meeting
> >> >> > who can participate?
> >> >> > agenda?
> >> >> > who are the organizer?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chair
> >> >> > Mostly, ministers, but can consider to invite head of delegates
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Robert Guerra
> >> >> > Make sure in the Host Country Agreement, for participants to feel
> >> >> > free
> >> >> > out of fear.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chair
> >> >> > As Deputy minister, I will try to answer
> >> >> > Registration will be happen on the IGF Website, not our own
> website,
> >> >> > therefore, anyperson have possibility to register,
> >> >> > After this information will be provide to our governmental bodies
> to
> >> >> > issue visas and others
> >> >> > About some controls; free usage of Internet
> >> >> > through fix, mobile and other
> >> >> > We have some restrictions and all persons tha live and work
> >> >> > inAzerbaijan and if you come – can be used these technologies –
> suchs
> >> >> > possibilitew will be provided during IGF Balu.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Peter Major
> >> >> > On accessibility said by Izumi mostly
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Judia Okite from Kenya
> >> >> > adding to accessibility, add that, ^ host country to check out
> hotel
> >> >> > if they are accessible with PWD for making booking
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Host
> >> >> > Our staff checked all the hotels, but did not put info on this,
> will
> >> >> > update the hotel list with this issue as well.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Felix Samakande, new MAG, Zimbabwe
> >> >> > reaction to Video – recollection of Lithuania experience
> >> >> > restriction of time to speak but speak slowly for interpreter
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chair
> >> >> > Translation will be provided only in Main Session – not in
> workshops
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Constance, ISOC
> >> >> > Mervi’s question – add invitation to CEOs, Civil society members
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chair
> >> >> >>From Kenya, we will keep this tradtion of inviting CEO (of ICANN),
> >> >> > Civil
> >> >> > Society
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Aysha
> >> >> > Comment on Ministerial, participated in Kenyan Ministerial
> >> >> > important to have dialogue among all stakeholders
> >> >> >
> >> >> > AZ Foreign Minisry
> >> >> > Visa issue – in due course
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Participation of all organizations – take seriously, treat every
> >> >> > singe
> >> >> > delegation in a non-discriminatory soverigh-
> >> >> > IF not paritcpate from soverign countries – it’s their choice
> >> >> > Linkage between of hosting event and allegation of freedom of
> >> >> > expression and mediu,
> >> >> > it is institutional nor, insure the norm and contineus to do so
> >> >> > mis-reprsented by some media-
> >> >> > is very infortunate that we are taking this time to address to
> >> >> > verenate the situation
> >> >> > clear – emotiona accests do not add credit to the authority of the
> >> >> > organizations or rpresentatives
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anna, Portugal
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Question about Ministerial meeting
> >> >> > What is man objective of this Ministerial which countries are
> >> >> > invited?
> >> >> > which Ministry?
> >> >> > we are in Multi-stakeholder event – cannot be put apart
> >> >> > MSH is not about big companies, but small companies, civil society,
> >> >> > etc
> >> >> > what is the purpose of this Ministerial?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chair
> >> >> > Kenya, it was the first time to have Ministerial
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Alice – explained the Kenyan Ministerial
> >> >> > agenda – came as bottom up, discussed at East Africa IGF
> >> >> >
> >> >> > AZ rep
> >> >> > There is discussion on how to model ministerial meeting
> >> >> > we want to hear to MAG members – which model?
> >> >> > all countries participated in ITU members – ITU has list of
> >> >> > ministries – who is resposbile on Telecom, ICT InfoSoc -sent
> >> >> > invitation letter to those countries
> >> >> > Involving private sector – big companies but we can invite others
> >> >> > we want to modelize and find best figure – useful
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Address the
> >> >> > your country will be responsible and delegate your officials to
> that
> >> >> > meeting.
> >> >> > ITU will channel this
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Wolfgang
> >> >> > Question to DESA
> >> >> > Nitin and Markus stepped down more than 2 years ago
> >> >> > Can we expect that two positions will be filled at IGF in Baku?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > DESA
> >> >> > Situation on Executive Coordinator and Special Advisor
> >> >> > It was funded by IGF Trust fund, voluntary contributions, but
> >> >> > regrettably, current voluntary contributions do not allow the
> >> >> > recruitment of EC
> >> >> > we are concerned about the absence of EC
> >> >> > once new project document approved 1 year ago, received from
> >> >> > Controller,
> >> >> > 90 applicants applied for the EC
> >> >> > Due to the financial balance project, we still have strong negative
> >> >> > balance – not able to recruit the EC
> >> >> > Go to IGC Website, you can see the balance of the project document
> >> >> > We just canceled the announcement of the EC, not able to continue
> the
> >> >> > recruitment,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Special Advisor – prerogative of the SG, no influence to force him
> to
> >> >> > make the decision
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anriette from APC
> >> >> > On Minsterial – I think it is very useful mechanism, appreciated in
> >> >> > Kenya –
> >> >> > but IGF is different from ITU, complement each other
> >> >> > IGF could take broader government and other stakeholders – on
> policy
> >> >> > Not rely on ITU database, but to be more creative about which
> >> >> > minister
> >> >> > to invite
> >> >> > Thematic focus on Ministerial – to define – then which CS and
> >> >> > minister
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ON human rights, -good hear to the reassurance – ask Host country
> to
> >> >> > make documents and ask DESA to reflect them into Host Country
> >> >> > agreement
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chair
> >> >> > according to the procedure, the host country must sign agreement
> with
> >> >> > UN DESA, and all issues are indicated in this agreement
> >> >> > Issues on transportation, visa, equipmet, computers are fulle
> include
> >> >> > toths agreement
> >> >> > And now this is agreement – w can publish them in our website.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anna Neves, Portugal
> >> >> > It is up to the host country to invite which Minister, yes. If it
> is
> >> >> > ITU event, then invite telecom ministers. but if it is IGF, then
> not
> >> >> > only telecom ministers.
> >> >> > If you use ITU Detabase, please do not call as “IGF”.
> >> >> > On EC, puzzled. Strange. There is voluntary funding.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chair
> >> >> > We can consider all of your proposal. During this event, you have
> >> >> > possibility of contact from our delegation, you can provide some
> info
> >> >> > on some ministries, please inform us, and we will invite these
> >> >> > ministries. Please provide these.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bertrand de La Chappell
> >> >> > On Visa, related to citizens of countries who may have political
> >> >> > tensions and who may have difficulty – can you ensure that there
> will
> >> >> > be no restriction.
> >> >> > On EC, situation is extremely troublesome, painfully.
> >> >> > It might be intentional – I don’t believe that. Choice- wrong
> >> >> > intensions or inefficiency – both are bad. Current situation is
> >> >> > weakening the IGF.
> >> >> > Chicken and Egg –we cannot hire because of funding, funding not
> >> >> > coming
> >> >> > because of uncertainty
> >> >> > canceling the process – re-launching – take months
> >> >> >
> >> >> > MAG could, in due time, to designate its own Chair – as an option
> >> >> > A voluntary desire to solve this problem
> >> >> >
> >> >> > DESA
> >> >> > Communicated to donor community –
> >> >> > we are not limiting them, trying hard
> >> >> > recent situation with Google – working with lawyers, beyond control
> >> >> > hope to solve this situation as soon as possible
> >> >> > Recruitment process for EC
> >> >> > we stay with one rule approved by member states
> >> >> > no other way.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chengetai
> >> >> > HCA – treated equal as UN
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Qusai
> >> >> > Ministerial meeting – not IGF event, right?
> >> >> > AZ’s liberty – to organize
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > LINCH Break
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Adam
> >> >> > How many workshops are possible to be organized – how many rooms?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chengetai
> >> >> > 128 Workshop proposals – highest number submitted
> >> >> > The venue can fit all workshops
> >> >> > Do we want to have 12 workshops at the same time?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Grading –
> >> >> > above 12 - green
> >> >> > below 12 – orange
> >> >> >
> >> >> > SOP 49
> >> >> > Access 19
> >> >> > EI, IG4D
> >> >> > CIR 10%
> >> >> > TS, WF 6%
> >> >> > Others -
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cade - how about dynamic coalitions and Open Forum?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chengetai - we need to consider them all.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >> > Center for Technology and Society
> >> > Getulio Vargas Foundation
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> >> --
> >> >> Izumi Aizu <<
> >> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo
> >> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
> >> Japan
> >> www.anr.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade
> > FGV Direito Rio
> >
> > Center for Technology and Society
> > Getulio Vargas Foundation
> > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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>
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> --
> >> Izumi Aizu <<
> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo
> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
> Japan
> www.anr.org
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