Thanks for the clarification, Izumi. I just felt that the bits and pieces I could hear in the streaming were very connected with the report.<div>Sorry for any misunderstanding. </div><div>M<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Izumi AIZU <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:iza@anr.org" target="_blank">iza@anr.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Ah, Marilia, don't get me wrong, I mean some of the points will be discussed<br>
in the MAG meeting tomorrow, I am sure. BUT we are sort of mostly tasked<br>
to discuss about the workshop, and is difficult to broaden the scope.<br>
<br>
I might be wrong, so correct me, by other members here.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
izumi<br>
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2012/5/16 Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Such a pitty. I believed that there was a commitment from all stakeholder<br>
> groups that participated on the WG that, as far as possible, the next IGF<br>
> should incorporate suggestions for improvement. There are points of the<br>
> report that address several of the aspects that have been mentioned all<br>
> along this afternoon, such as diversifying participation, criteria for<br>
> sponsoring speakers, methodology.<br>
><br>
> Hard to understand why it has been ignored.<br>
> Marília<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Izumi AIZU <<a href="mailto:iza@anr.org">iza@anr.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> No, not yet. is the simple answer.<br>
>> CSTD WG Report did not get into the agenda, nor its substance,<br>
>> it is put into the third day's agenda, somehow.<br>
>><br>
>> izumi<br>
>><br>
>> 2012/5/16 Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> > Streaming is really crappy for me, so it has been hard to follow.<br>
>> > But has anyone raised the topic of the specific things that maybe need<br>
>> > to be<br>
>> > changed on the methodology in order to be able to reach the "more<br>
>> > concrete<br>
>> > policy options" suggested on the CSTD WG? eg. type of "policy question",<br>
>> > need for pre-assigned rapporteurs, role of rapporteurs, thematic<br>
>> > roudtables<br>
>> > to bring together outcomes from workshops, format that these outcomes<br>
>> > should<br>
>> > be communicated to "other relevant organizations".. If so, what was<br>
>> > said<br>
>> > about it?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Marília<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Izumi & all, interesting to know how the proposed (decided?)<br>
>> >> ministerial meeting was questioned on the grounds of the purpose of the<br>
>> >> IGF as a MSH initiative.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I wonder about the role of the so-called "special advisors". Who are<br>
>> >> they? Are they considered "volunteer staff"? Since there is no<br>
>> >> replacement for Nitin & Markus (I understand Chengetai is playing<br>
>> >> Markus's role in the meantime?), who decides on the "special advisors"<br>
>> >> and other staff? I wonder about their role, again recalling this is a<br>
>> >> MSH initiative.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> fraternal regards<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --c.a.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On 05/15/2012 10:30 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
>> >> > The morning meeting ended around 1300, here is my rough memo.<br>
>> >> > Annotated, as it is Open consultation, but all are very sketchy.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > izumi<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > May 15, 2012 11:25 Open Consultation starts<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > UNDESA rep –<br>
>> >> > Opening remarks<br>
>> >> > over 100 workshops proposed for IGF 2012<br>
>> >> > greater transparency, more information, contribute for better<br>
>> >> > governance<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > MR Elmir Valizda, Chair of MAG<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Robert Guerra<br>
>> >> > Citizen Lab<br>
>> >> > Update for Preparation, logistics, venue and other issues<br>
>> >> > scarecity of details a problem –<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chengetai<br>
>> >> > Will have update, yes, just now.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Constance, ISOC<br>
>> >> > ISCO reception<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Question of participation of indigenes people<br>
>> >> > rather than access to Internet, they need food, closing, shelters<br>
>> >> > I need free and active participation from indigenes people<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Azerbaijan host to report:<br>
>> >> > IGF Nov 6-9<br>
>> >> > Nov 5 – ministerial meeting<br>
>> >> > info on Baku/Azerbaijan<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > All hotels (90) with reduced corporate rates, without 18% VAT<br>
>> >> > 46 hotels will be provided with shuttles<br>
>> >> > 17 hotels – no shuttles<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Izumi read Judy’s comment:<br>
>> >> > Physical Accessibility<br>
>> >> > it is imperative that all locations/ venue , transport,etc is<br>
>> >> > accessible and usable for PWD .<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Mervi, Finland<br>
>> >> > Question on Ministerial Meeting<br>
>> >> > who can participate?<br>
>> >> > agenda?<br>
>> >> > who are the organizer?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chair<br>
>> >> > Mostly, ministers, but can consider to invite head of delegates<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Robert Guerra<br>
>> >> > Make sure in the Host Country Agreement, for participants to feel<br>
>> >> > free<br>
>> >> > out of fear.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chair<br>
>> >> > As Deputy minister, I will try to answer<br>
>> >> > Registration will be happen on the IGF Website, not our own website,<br>
>> >> > therefore, anyperson have possibility to register,<br>
>> >> > After this information will be provide to our governmental bodies to<br>
>> >> > issue visas and others<br>
>> >> > About some controls; free usage of Internet<br>
>> >> > through fix, mobile and other<br>
>> >> > We have some restrictions and all persons tha live and work<br>
>> >> > inAzerbaijan and if you come – can be used these technologies – suchs<br>
>> >> > possibilitew will be provided during IGF Balu.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Peter Major<br>
>> >> > On accessibility said by Izumi mostly<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Judia Okite from Kenya<br>
>> >> > adding to accessibility, add that, ^ host country to check out hotel<br>
>> >> > if they are accessible with PWD for making booking<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Host<br>
>> >> > Our staff checked all the hotels, but did not put info on this, will<br>
>> >> > update the hotel list with this issue as well.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Felix Samakande, new MAG, Zimbabwe<br>
>> >> > reaction to Video – recollection of Lithuania experience<br>
>> >> > restriction of time to speak but speak slowly for interpreter<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chair<br>
>> >> > Translation will be provided only in Main Session – not in workshops<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Constance, ISOC<br>
>> >> > Mervi’s question – add invitation to CEOs, Civil society members<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chair<br>
>> >> >>From Kenya, we will keep this tradtion of inviting CEO (of ICANN),<br>
>> >> > Civil<br>
>> >> > Society<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Aysha<br>
>> >> > Comment on Ministerial, participated in Kenyan Ministerial<br>
>> >> > important to have dialogue among all stakeholders<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > AZ Foreign Minisry<br>
>> >> > Visa issue – in due course<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Participation of all organizations – take seriously, treat every<br>
>> >> > singe<br>
>> >> > delegation in a non-discriminatory soverigh-<br>
>> >> > IF not paritcpate from soverign countries – it’s their choice<br>
>> >> > Linkage between of hosting event and allegation of freedom of<br>
>> >> > expression and mediu,<br>
>> >> > it is institutional nor, insure the norm and contineus to do so<br>
>> >> > mis-reprsented by some media-<br>
>> >> > is very infortunate that we are taking this time to address to<br>
>> >> > verenate the situation<br>
>> >> > clear – emotiona accests do not add credit to the authority of the<br>
>> >> > organizations or rpresentatives<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Anna, Portugal<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Question about Ministerial meeting<br>
>> >> > What is man objective of this Ministerial which countries are<br>
>> >> > invited?<br>
>> >> > which Ministry?<br>
>> >> > we are in Multi-stakeholder event – cannot be put apart<br>
>> >> > MSH is not about big companies, but small companies, civil society,<br>
>> >> > etc<br>
>> >> > what is the purpose of this Ministerial?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chair<br>
>> >> > Kenya, it was the first time to have Ministerial<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Alice – explained the Kenyan Ministerial<br>
>> >> > agenda – came as bottom up, discussed at East Africa IGF<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > AZ rep<br>
>> >> > There is discussion on how to model ministerial meeting<br>
>> >> > we want to hear to MAG members – which model?<br>
>> >> > all countries participated in ITU members – ITU has list of<br>
>> >> > ministries – who is resposbile on Telecom, ICT InfoSoc -sent<br>
>> >> > invitation letter to those countries<br>
>> >> > Involving private sector – big companies but we can invite others<br>
>> >> > we want to modelize and find best figure – useful<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Address the<br>
>> >> > your country will be responsible and delegate your officials to that<br>
>> >> > meeting.<br>
>> >> > ITU will channel this<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Wolfgang<br>
>> >> > Question to DESA<br>
>> >> > Nitin and Markus stepped down more than 2 years ago<br>
>> >> > Can we expect that two positions will be filled at IGF in Baku?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > DESA<br>
>> >> > Situation on Executive Coordinator and Special Advisor<br>
>> >> > It was funded by IGF Trust fund, voluntary contributions, but<br>
>> >> > regrettably, current voluntary contributions do not allow the<br>
>> >> > recruitment of EC<br>
>> >> > we are concerned about the absence of EC<br>
>> >> > once new project document approved 1 year ago, received from<br>
>> >> > Controller,<br>
>> >> > 90 applicants applied for the EC<br>
>> >> > Due to the financial balance project, we still have strong negative<br>
>> >> > balance – not able to recruit the EC<br>
>> >> > Go to IGC Website, you can see the balance of the project document<br>
>> >> > We just canceled the announcement of the EC, not able to continue the<br>
>> >> > recruitment,<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Special Advisor – prerogative of the SG, no influence to force him to<br>
>> >> > make the decision<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Anriette from APC<br>
>> >> > On Minsterial – I think it is very useful mechanism, appreciated in<br>
>> >> > Kenya –<br>
>> >> > but IGF is different from ITU, complement each other<br>
>> >> > IGF could take broader government and other stakeholders – on policy<br>
>> >> > Not rely on ITU database, but to be more creative about which<br>
>> >> > minister<br>
>> >> > to invite<br>
>> >> > Thematic focus on Ministerial – to define – then which CS and<br>
>> >> > minister<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > ON human rights, -good hear to the reassurance – ask Host country to<br>
>> >> > make documents and ask DESA to reflect them into Host Country<br>
>> >> > agreement<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chair<br>
>> >> > according to the procedure, the host country must sign agreement with<br>
>> >> > UN DESA, and all issues are indicated in this agreement<br>
>> >> > Issues on transportation, visa, equipmet, computers are fulle include<br>
>> >> > toths agreement<br>
>> >> > And now this is agreement – w can publish them in our website.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Anna Neves, Portugal<br>
>> >> > It is up to the host country to invite which Minister, yes. If it is<br>
>> >> > ITU event, then invite telecom ministers. but if it is IGF, then not<br>
>> >> > only telecom ministers.<br>
>> >> > If you use ITU Detabase, please do not call as “IGF”.<br>
>> >> > On EC, puzzled. Strange. There is voluntary funding.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chair<br>
>> >> > We can consider all of your proposal. During this event, you have<br>
>> >> > possibility of contact from our delegation, you can provide some info<br>
>> >> > on some ministries, please inform us, and we will invite these<br>
>> >> > ministries. Please provide these.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Bertrand de La Chappell<br>
>> >> > On Visa, related to citizens of countries who may have political<br>
>> >> > tensions and who may have difficulty – can you ensure that there will<br>
>> >> > be no restriction.<br>
>> >> > On EC, situation is extremely troublesome, painfully.<br>
>> >> > It might be intentional – I don’t believe that. Choice- wrong<br>
>> >> > intensions or inefficiency – both are bad. Current situation is<br>
>> >> > weakening the IGF.<br>
>> >> > Chicken and Egg –we cannot hire because of funding, funding not<br>
>> >> > coming<br>
>> >> > because of uncertainty<br>
>> >> > canceling the process – re-launching – take months<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > MAG could, in due time, to designate its own Chair – as an option<br>
>> >> > A voluntary desire to solve this problem<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > DESA<br>
>> >> > Communicated to donor community –<br>
>> >> > we are not limiting them, trying hard<br>
>> >> > recent situation with Google – working with lawyers, beyond control<br>
>> >> > hope to solve this situation as soon as possible<br>
>> >> > Recruitment process for EC<br>
>> >> > we stay with one rule approved by member states<br>
>> >> > no other way.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chengetai<br>
>> >> > HCA – treated equal as UN<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Qusai<br>
>> >> > Ministerial meeting – not IGF event, right?<br>
>> >> > AZ’s liberty – to organize<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > LINCH Break<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Adam<br>
>> >> > How many workshops are possible to be organized – how many rooms?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chengetai<br>
>> >> > 128 Workshop proposals – highest number submitted<br>
>> >> > The venue can fit all workshops<br>
>> >> > Do we want to have 12 workshops at the same time?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Grading –<br>
>> >> > above 12 - green<br>
>> >> > below 12 – orange<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > SOP 49<br>
>> >> > Access 19<br>
>> >> > EI, IG4D<br>
>> >> > CIR 10%<br>
>> >> > TS, WF 6%<br>
>> >> > Others -<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Cade - how about dynamic coalitions and Open Forum?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Chengetai - we need to consider them all.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
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>> >> Izumi Aizu <<<br>
>> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo<br>
>> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,<br>
>> Japan<br>
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