[governance] IGF Open Consultation memo, Morning, May 15
Izumi AIZU
iza at anr.org
Tue May 15 11:20:56 EDT 2012
Ah, Marilia, don't get me wrong, I mean some of the points will be discussed
in the MAG meeting tomorrow, I am sure. BUT we are sort of mostly tasked
to discuss about the workshop, and is difficult to broaden the scope.
I might be wrong, so correct me, by other members here.
izumi
2012/5/16 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>:
> Such a pitty. I believed that there was a commitment from all stakeholder
> groups that participated on the WG that, as far as possible, the next IGF
> should incorporate suggestions for improvement. There are points of the
> report that address several of the aspects that have been mentioned all
> along this afternoon, such as diversifying participation, criteria for
> sponsoring speakers, methodology.
>
> Hard to understand why it has been ignored.
> Marília
>
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
>>
>> No, not yet. is the simple answer.
>> CSTD WG Report did not get into the agenda, nor its substance,
>> it is put into the third day's agenda, somehow.
>>
>> izumi
>>
>> 2012/5/16 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>:
>> > Streaming is really crappy for me, so it has been hard to follow.
>> > But has anyone raised the topic of the specific things that maybe need
>> > to be
>> > changed on the methodology in order to be able to reach the "more
>> > concrete
>> > policy options" suggested on the CSTD WG? eg. type of "policy question",
>> > need for pre-assigned rapporteurs, role of rapporteurs, thematic
>> > roudtables
>> > to bring together outcomes from workshops, format that these outcomes
>> > should
>> > be communicated to "other relevant organizations".. If so, what was
>> > said
>> > about it?
>> >
>> > Marília
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Izumi & all, interesting to know how the proposed (decided?)
>> >> ministerial meeting was questioned on the grounds of the purpose of the
>> >> IGF as a MSH initiative.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder about the role of the so-called "special advisors". Who are
>> >> they? Are they considered "volunteer staff"? Since there is no
>> >> replacement for Nitin & Markus (I understand Chengetai is playing
>> >> Markus's role in the meantime?), who decides on the "special advisors"
>> >> and other staff? I wonder about their role, again recalling this is a
>> >> MSH initiative.
>> >>
>> >> fraternal regards
>> >>
>> >> --c.a.
>> >>
>> >> On 05/15/2012 10:30 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>> >> > The morning meeting ended around 1300, here is my rough memo.
>> >> > Annotated, as it is Open consultation, but all are very sketchy.
>> >> >
>> >> > izumi
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > May 15, 2012 11:25 Open Consultation starts
>> >> >
>> >> > UNDESA rep –
>> >> > Opening remarks
>> >> > over 100 workshops proposed for IGF 2012
>> >> > greater transparency, more information, contribute for better
>> >> > governance
>> >> >
>> >> > MR Elmir Valizda, Chair of MAG
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert Guerra
>> >> > Citizen Lab
>> >> > Update for Preparation, logistics, venue and other issues
>> >> > scarecity of details a problem –
>> >> >
>> >> > Chengetai
>> >> > Will have update, yes, just now.
>> >> >
>> >> > Constance, ISOC
>> >> > ISCO reception
>> >> >
>> >> > Question of participation of indigenes people
>> >> > rather than access to Internet, they need food, closing, shelters
>> >> > I need free and active participation from indigenes people
>> >> >
>> >> > Azerbaijan host to report:
>> >> > IGF Nov 6-9
>> >> > Nov 5 – ministerial meeting
>> >> > info on Baku/Azerbaijan
>> >> >
>> >> > All hotels (90) with reduced corporate rates, without 18% VAT
>> >> > 46 hotels will be provided with shuttles
>> >> > 17 hotels – no shuttles
>> >> >
>> >> > Izumi read Judy’s comment:
>> >> > Physical Accessibility
>> >> > it is imperative that all locations/ venue , transport,etc is
>> >> > accessible and usable for PWD .
>> >> >
>> >> > Mervi, Finland
>> >> > Question on Ministerial Meeting
>> >> > who can participate?
>> >> > agenda?
>> >> > who are the organizer?
>> >> >
>> >> > Chair
>> >> > Mostly, ministers, but can consider to invite head of delegates
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert Guerra
>> >> > Make sure in the Host Country Agreement, for participants to feel
>> >> > free
>> >> > out of fear.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chair
>> >> > As Deputy minister, I will try to answer
>> >> > Registration will be happen on the IGF Website, not our own website,
>> >> > therefore, anyperson have possibility to register,
>> >> > After this information will be provide to our governmental bodies to
>> >> > issue visas and others
>> >> > About some controls; free usage of Internet
>> >> > through fix, mobile and other
>> >> > We have some restrictions and all persons tha live and work
>> >> > inAzerbaijan and if you come – can be used these technologies – suchs
>> >> > possibilitew will be provided during IGF Balu.
>> >> >
>> >> > Peter Major
>> >> > On accessibility said by Izumi mostly
>> >> >
>> >> > Judia Okite from Kenya
>> >> > adding to accessibility, add that, ^ host country to check out hotel
>> >> > if they are accessible with PWD for making booking
>> >> >
>> >> > Host
>> >> > Our staff checked all the hotels, but did not put info on this, will
>> >> > update the hotel list with this issue as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Felix Samakande, new MAG, Zimbabwe
>> >> > reaction to Video – recollection of Lithuania experience
>> >> > restriction of time to speak but speak slowly for interpreter
>> >> >
>> >> > Chair
>> >> > Translation will be provided only in Main Session – not in workshops
>> >> >
>> >> > Constance, ISOC
>> >> > Mervi’s question – add invitation to CEOs, Civil society members
>> >> >
>> >> > Chair
>> >> >>From Kenya, we will keep this tradtion of inviting CEO (of ICANN),
>> >> > Civil
>> >> > Society
>> >> >
>> >> > Aysha
>> >> > Comment on Ministerial, participated in Kenyan Ministerial
>> >> > important to have dialogue among all stakeholders
>> >> >
>> >> > AZ Foreign Minisry
>> >> > Visa issue – in due course
>> >> >
>> >> > Participation of all organizations – take seriously, treat every
>> >> > singe
>> >> > delegation in a non-discriminatory soverigh-
>> >> > IF not paritcpate from soverign countries – it’s their choice
>> >> > Linkage between of hosting event and allegation of freedom of
>> >> > expression and mediu,
>> >> > it is institutional nor, insure the norm and contineus to do so
>> >> > mis-reprsented by some media-
>> >> > is very infortunate that we are taking this time to address to
>> >> > verenate the situation
>> >> > clear – emotiona accests do not add credit to the authority of the
>> >> > organizations or rpresentatives
>> >> >
>> >> > Anna, Portugal
>> >> >
>> >> > Question about Ministerial meeting
>> >> > What is man objective of this Ministerial which countries are
>> >> > invited?
>> >> > which Ministry?
>> >> > we are in Multi-stakeholder event – cannot be put apart
>> >> > MSH is not about big companies, but small companies, civil society,
>> >> > etc
>> >> > what is the purpose of this Ministerial?
>> >> >
>> >> > Chair
>> >> > Kenya, it was the first time to have Ministerial
>> >> >
>> >> > Alice – explained the Kenyan Ministerial
>> >> > agenda – came as bottom up, discussed at East Africa IGF
>> >> >
>> >> > AZ rep
>> >> > There is discussion on how to model ministerial meeting
>> >> > we want to hear to MAG members – which model?
>> >> > all countries participated in ITU members – ITU has list of
>> >> > ministries – who is resposbile on Telecom, ICT InfoSoc -sent
>> >> > invitation letter to those countries
>> >> > Involving private sector – big companies but we can invite others
>> >> > we want to modelize and find best figure – useful
>> >> >
>> >> > Address the
>> >> > your country will be responsible and delegate your officials to that
>> >> > meeting.
>> >> > ITU will channel this
>> >> >
>> >> > Wolfgang
>> >> > Question to DESA
>> >> > Nitin and Markus stepped down more than 2 years ago
>> >> > Can we expect that two positions will be filled at IGF in Baku?
>> >> >
>> >> > DESA
>> >> > Situation on Executive Coordinator and Special Advisor
>> >> > It was funded by IGF Trust fund, voluntary contributions, but
>> >> > regrettably, current voluntary contributions do not allow the
>> >> > recruitment of EC
>> >> > we are concerned about the absence of EC
>> >> > once new project document approved 1 year ago, received from
>> >> > Controller,
>> >> > 90 applicants applied for the EC
>> >> > Due to the financial balance project, we still have strong negative
>> >> > balance – not able to recruit the EC
>> >> > Go to IGC Website, you can see the balance of the project document
>> >> > We just canceled the announcement of the EC, not able to continue the
>> >> > recruitment,
>> >> >
>> >> > Special Advisor – prerogative of the SG, no influence to force him to
>> >> > make the decision
>> >> >
>> >> > Anriette from APC
>> >> > On Minsterial – I think it is very useful mechanism, appreciated in
>> >> > Kenya –
>> >> > but IGF is different from ITU, complement each other
>> >> > IGF could take broader government and other stakeholders – on policy
>> >> > Not rely on ITU database, but to be more creative about which
>> >> > minister
>> >> > to invite
>> >> > Thematic focus on Ministerial – to define – then which CS and
>> >> > minister
>> >> >
>> >> > ON human rights, -good hear to the reassurance – ask Host country to
>> >> > make documents and ask DESA to reflect them into Host Country
>> >> > agreement
>> >> >
>> >> > Chair
>> >> > according to the procedure, the host country must sign agreement with
>> >> > UN DESA, and all issues are indicated in this agreement
>> >> > Issues on transportation, visa, equipmet, computers are fulle include
>> >> > toths agreement
>> >> > And now this is agreement – w can publish them in our website.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anna Neves, Portugal
>> >> > It is up to the host country to invite which Minister, yes. If it is
>> >> > ITU event, then invite telecom ministers. but if it is IGF, then not
>> >> > only telecom ministers.
>> >> > If you use ITU Detabase, please do not call as “IGF”.
>> >> > On EC, puzzled. Strange. There is voluntary funding.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chair
>> >> > We can consider all of your proposal. During this event, you have
>> >> > possibility of contact from our delegation, you can provide some info
>> >> > on some ministries, please inform us, and we will invite these
>> >> > ministries. Please provide these.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bertrand de La Chappell
>> >> > On Visa, related to citizens of countries who may have political
>> >> > tensions and who may have difficulty – can you ensure that there will
>> >> > be no restriction.
>> >> > On EC, situation is extremely troublesome, painfully.
>> >> > It might be intentional – I don’t believe that. Choice- wrong
>> >> > intensions or inefficiency – both are bad. Current situation is
>> >> > weakening the IGF.
>> >> > Chicken and Egg –we cannot hire because of funding, funding not
>> >> > coming
>> >> > because of uncertainty
>> >> > canceling the process – re-launching – take months
>> >> >
>> >> > MAG could, in due time, to designate its own Chair – as an option
>> >> > A voluntary desire to solve this problem
>> >> >
>> >> > DESA
>> >> > Communicated to donor community –
>> >> > we are not limiting them, trying hard
>> >> > recent situation with Google – working with lawyers, beyond control
>> >> > hope to solve this situation as soon as possible
>> >> > Recruitment process for EC
>> >> > we stay with one rule approved by member states
>> >> > no other way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chengetai
>> >> > HCA – treated equal as UN
>> >> >
>> >> > Qusai
>> >> > Ministerial meeting – not IGF event, right?
>> >> > AZ’s liberty – to organize
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > LINCH Break
>> >> >
>> >> > Adam
>> >> > How many workshops are possible to be organized – how many rooms?
>> >> >
>> >> > Chengetai
>> >> > 128 Workshop proposals – highest number submitted
>> >> > The venue can fit all workshops
>> >> > Do we want to have 12 workshops at the same time?
>> >> >
>> >> > Grading –
>> >> > above 12 - green
>> >> > below 12 – orange
>> >> >
>> >> > SOP 49
>> >> > Access 19
>> >> > EI, IG4D
>> >> > CIR 10%
>> >> > TS, WF 6%
>> >> > Others -
>> >> >
>> >> > Cade - how about dynamic coalitions and Open Forum?
>> >> >
>> >> > Chengetai - we need to consider them all.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Izumi Aizu <<
>> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo
>> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
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> FGV Direito Rio
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> Center for Technology and Society
> Getulio Vargas Foundation
> Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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>> Izumi Aizu <<
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Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
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