[igf_members] [cir] [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR?

Tue Mar 6 08:14:13 EST 2012

Hi,
Goog suggestion Patrick, I support it.
Best and thanks
Olga

El 5 de marzo de 2012 20:33, Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se> escribió:

> Ok, I must step in here and suggest a few things...
>
> To be as constructive as possible, and have the ability to move forward in
> the discussion, I think it is important to keep a few issues apart,
> although of course to some degree they are related. Let me suggest a way of
> cutting the cake.
>
> 1. The ability for entities to trade domain names
>
> 2. The ability for the result of a trade to be reflected in the whois and
> other databases a RIR is running
>
> 3. Relationship between RIR's and legacy address holders
>
> 4. Relationship between RIR's and non-legacy address holders
>
> 5. The harmonization or non-harmonization of the policies between the
> RIR's on topics like the above
>
>    Patrik
>
> On 6 mar 2012, at 04:53, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
> You can’t have an unfettered market until the framework for transfers is
> harmonized and globalized across RIRs.****
> The issue of legacy holders’ rights needs to be settled. The way for
> inter-regional transfers needs to be cleared. A strong ASO or process for
> making global policies, which usually fails in the RIR system, needs to be
> created. And so on.****
> See you at the ASO meeting in CR!****
> ** **
> --MM****
> ** **
> *From:* McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 3:19 PM
> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller
> *Cc:* William Drake; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; Carlos A. Afonso; IGF
> Members
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR?****
> ** **
> Hi Milton,
>
> On Monday, March 5, 2012, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
> > If they discuss IPv6, they must also discuss the emergence of trading
> markets for scarce IPv4 addresses, which is actually the only relevant
> policy issue at the moment and one which actually (unlike 90% of what is
> now discussed at IGF) something that requires global coordination and
> governance.
> >
>
> Exactly what global coordination and governance do you mean?
>
> I thought you were a proponent of an unfettered v4 market!?
>
> Rgds,
>
> McTim
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Naturally I'd put myself forward as someone who both knows something
> about that issue and would offer a refreshing alternative reality-check to
> what you are likely to get from certain other sources.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:
> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of William Drake
> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:31 AM
> > To: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se
> > Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; IGF Members;
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Tulika
> >
> >
> >
> >  There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and
> questions for the CIR session.  Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the
> facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being
> consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other
> geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string
> selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we
> think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks
> have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more
> narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!),
> migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where
> this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on
> four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants,  the government
> reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their
> thoughts either way.  Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I
> don't know if you can join, but you might try,  otherwise I'd be happy to
> pass along any statements from you as inputs.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY <tulika at nic.in> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for
> the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his
> inputs on ITU initiatives.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tulika Pandey
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Dear people,
> >
> > The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the
> > IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet
> > resources":
> >
> > --- begin doc citation ---
> >
> > 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several
> > commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the
> > institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP
> > addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points.
> >
> > 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues
> > theme, including, inter alia;
> >
> > • Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet;
> >
> > • IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that
> > may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion
> > of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries?
> >
> > • What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names,
> > i.e. IDN.IDN?
> >
> > • Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and
> > IDN gTLDs;
> >
> > • Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues
> > drive or impact policy.
> >
> > --- end doc citation ---
> >
> > In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at,
> > among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take
> > account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above
> > points are far from sufficient.
> >
> > At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU
> > meetings' outcomes.
> >
> > fraternal regards
> >
> > --c.a.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tulika Pandey
> > Additional Director
> > Department of Information Technology
> > Room 3089, Electronics Niketan
> > 6 CGO Complex, Ne
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel****
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