[governance] FBI, DEA, IPv6 & ICANN

[c.a.]

Alejandro, the meeting I sat through was not "designed" for this, lasted less than one and a half hour, but I did mention the issue. Yes, it goes to the essence of what Icann mission is (or should be). It is *not* a technical matter, no matter how close I am from machine-room experts. No, it is *not* simply a technical matter to be bureucratically given to Ietf or even Nro. The Internet governance organization dealing with logical infra is Icann, not its branches or related technical fora. Unless it is not, I am wrong and we do need to look for one.

Fraternal regards

--c.a.

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On 27/06/2012, at 13:48, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx> wrote:

> Carlos,
> 
> please use the opportunity mentioned by John. It is a pity that you have sat in at least four hours of ISOC meetings while in Prague, and in many others, and have not put forward these questions to the community of experts present. 
> 
> Your question goes to the essence of what is ICANN's mission and what it is not. It will be educational to clarify that important matter with the example of IPv6-related policy. ICANN's remit is concerned with allocation, not deployment. But why would I ask you to accept my explanation when you are meters and minutes away from better experts.
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> ________________________________________
> Desde: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Carlos A. Afonso [ca at cafonso.ca]
> Enviado el: miércoles, 27 de junio de 2012 05:36
> Hasta: John Curran
> CC: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Asunto: Re: [governance] FBI, DEA, IPv6 & ICANN
> 
> Thanks, John, and sorry again for mispelling Thomas Narten's name.
> 
> The central point of my concerns is that ICANN usually jumps at the
> simple mention of a need for international Internet governance which
> would include the logical infrastructure of the Net -- its response is
> that this is already done by ICANN, that we should not "fix what is not
> broken" and so on.
> 
> Now, when a grave issue like the one I mentioned is posed to the board,
> they mute or there are reactions like Thomas's -- it turns into just a
> technical names and numbers body. No longer an international Internet
> governance organization dedicated to the logical infrastructure of the
> network?
> 
> frt rgds
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 06/27/2012 04:19 AM, John Curran wrote:
>> On Jun 27, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear people,
>>> 
>>> Yesterday (jun.26) here at ICANN 44 meeting in Prague, we had a meeting of the ICANN board with the stakeholder group in which I participate (NCSG). I had the opportunity to ask the board what they thought ICANN should do about the FBI&  DEA meddling in IPv6 deployment, as they (ICANN) are the planet's governance body for names, *numbers* and protocols.
>>> 
>>> ICANN's Tom Anders immediately replied ICANN has nothing to do with it. I was surprised, not only by Tom's statement, but also by the absolute silence of the board on this issue.
>> 
>> Carlos -
>> 
>>    I am the Chair of the NRO, which serves as the Address Supporting
>>    Organization within the ICANN structure.  The ICANN ASO advises
>>    the ICANN Board on issues and policies related to Internet number
>>    resources.
>> 
>>    I'd be happy to meet with you in Prague at any time this week to this
>>    concern, but will also note that there is a session specifically on
>>    IPv6 at the ICANN Prague meeting (it on being held on Thursday -
>>    <http://prague44.icann.org/node/31803>) which would also provide an
>>    opportunity to raise it in a public forum context.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>> 
>> John Curran
>> ARIN President and CEO
>> Chair, NRO (ICANN ASO)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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