[governance] [] US, UK and Canada refuse to sign UN's internet treaty

[Bertrand de La Chapelle]

+1 to Karl-John exchange below.

Particularly:

*"User traffic should be considered*
*  private, and not monitored and except to the extent necessary*
*  for network operations or per lawful order" is far more*
*  useful than "Don't deploy DPI or traffic monitoring"*


Correct formulation of an issue/objective is 90% of solving/achieving it.
(Should we say governance is 90% formulation and 10% perspiration ?) A
major purpose of multi-stakeholder deliberations is to provide the full
picture (with all technical, economic, ethical and social aspects), to
prevent exchanges spiralling down into acrimonious opposition between
apparently incompatible high-level principles.

In many cases, the choice is not either/or, but how - if possible - to
combine opposing principles in a dynamic, positive tension.

Bertrand


On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 2:51 PM, John Curran <jcurran at istaff.org> wrote:

> On Dec 15, 2012, at 3:47 AM, Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com> wrote:
> >
> > One thing that I've always wanted to see is some line that allows those
> > of us who diagnose and repair networks to do our work without being
> > accused of being nefarious beings of malevolent intent.
> >
> > A surgeon brings sharp, potentially dangerous tools to the operating
> table.
> >
> > Those of us who diagnose and repair networks also have sharp tools in
> > our toolkits.
> >
> > In both cases those tools are ambiguous - they could cause harm or cause
> > good.
> >
> > There needs to be some sort of demarcation that allows for network
> > diagnosis and repair.  This goes not merely to the use of tools but also
> > some recognition that during repair and diagnosis that sometimes things
> > that are private are revealed to the repair team.
> >
> > Otherwise the security measures that "endeavour to ensure the security
> > and robustness of international telecommunication networks" could easily
> > become barriers that cause networks to be, in sum, less robust.
>
> Karl -
>
>   100% agreement.  If we need controls, then we need them
>   on actual acts of harm, not the tools or their use.  The
>   surgeon cuts flesh, but they are doing it for the right
>   reason.   The network engineer might indeed have to turn
>   on packet monitoring, e.g. to find the control network
>   behind a DDoS attack, etc.
>
>   I'm not certain this point is well-understood by folks,
>   and it comes back down to making sure that guidance from
>   those who make public policy is sufficiently high-level
>   based on outcomes, i.e. "User traffic should be considered
>   private, and not monitored and except to the extent necessary
>   for network operations or per lawful order" is far more
>   useful than "Don't deploy DPI or traffic monitoring"
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> Disclaimer:  My views alone. Note to traffic monitoring
> equipment: Interception of this email constitutes acceptance
> of my terms and conditions; in short, you now owe me a latte.
>
>
>
>
>
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